My 2007 Camry burns Oil

[suikki]

I bought a new 2007 Camray and it began to burn excessive oil before 60,000 miles and Toyota said that was normal and would not do anything about it. The car is now almost worthless!!

[Joe Dirt]

How much oil is excessive oil?

[suikki]

This Camray burns about 1 litre every 1200 km or a quart about every 750 miles. They said this was acceptable. Every car I have had in the last 2 decades with up to 300,000 km or 187,000 miles was able to go between oil changes without adding oil. The service manager did not specify exactly what was a limit. I have a recording of the interview with the service manager in mp3 that can be emailed. (The recording was made with the initial acknowledgment of the service manager that it was being made)

[Paul3637]

Originally Posted by suikki

This Camray burns about 1 litre every 1200 km or a quart about every 750 miles. They said this was acceptable. Every car I have had in the last 2 decades with up to 300,000 km or 187,000 miles was able to go between oil changes without adding oil. The service manager did not specify exactly what was a limit. I have a recording of the interview with the service manager in mp3 that can be emailed. (The recording was made with the initial acknowledgment of the service manager that it was being made)

******

There was apparantly a bad batch of the I4 engines. I will post a link to over 100 posts in the Camry enthusiats forum but I don't know if it will get filtered out. Many have gotten new engines ...... but most dealers give the bs about "it is normal." It is not normal at all. My 09 v6 camry burns ZERO oil between 5k oil changes.

Here is the link ..... hope it posts

http://www.camryforums.com/forum/gen...e10/#post64012

[molson.david]

burns about 1 litre every 1200 km or a quart about every 750 miles

what kind oil do you use?

[gdanaher]

Make absolutely certain that the valve cover venting is free and clear, and that the pvc valve is clean and operational. I have seen problems over the past 15 years on Toyotas where sludging became an issue and the result is high internal pressures which forces oil down the valve stems and burns oil excessively. I would advise you to pull, or have someone pull the valve cover off and take a look at that thing. It will tell you a bunch about the condition of your engine.

Secondly, does the oil remain fairly clean or does it blacken quickly with carbon? Have someone check the compression pressures. You have some bad rings.

[DOHCammer]

There is now a known issue of defective pistons causing the oil rings to become sludged up and stick fast to the piston lands. We have done several short blocks in the last few months for this problem under Toyota's Extra Care extended warranty. We also have a few customers in the middle of oil consumption testing. I'm not sure what Toyota's cure for this will be but it definitely is becoming a problem. My daughters 06 Rav is also eating oil at 82k miles but she is going to trade it on a V6 anyway.

[10altima]

My '07 Camry, I4, with 60K, has burned a quart of oil a couple of times, each time at 2500 miles into an oil change, but when I started using Quaker State Syn. 5W20, full time, this issue has been resolved. I think the Auto Manual states a quart every 750 miles is within spec.

[JohnGD]

Check the owners manual. In the US using 1.1qt (1L) per 600 miles (~965 km) is considered acceptable to Toyota. I know, this is a joke because decades old Toyotas didn't use oil like this. But the quality has been going downhill during the years MBA types ran the company - almost into the ground before Akio Toyoda took it back.

Originally Posted by suikki

This Camray burns about 1 litre every 1200 km or a quart about every 750 miles. They said this was acceptable. Every car I have had in the last 2 decades with up to 300,000 km or 187,000 miles was able to go between oil changes without adding oil. The service manager did not specify exactly what was a limit. I have a recording of the interview with the service manager in mp3 that can be emailed. (The recording was made with the initial acknowledgment of the service manager that it was being made)

[sxe-10]

i had the dealer do a oil consumption test, it was burning about 3 liters at about 4,800km, the 4cyl takes a little less than 5 liters per oil change and they said its operating under normal parameters, they wouldnt do anything about it..

[suikki]

Originally Posted by molson.david

what kind oil do you use?

5w20 of whatever make the service center uses

[sijaz]

Toyota issued a TSB on the oil consumption problem in these engines. TSB #0094-11 (August 2011). Repair covered under powertrain warranty (60 months or 60k miles), otherwise you're SOL.

[canuck1]

I've got the same issue with oil consumption. Expect that the dealership will tell me it's normal. My guess is that it's not normal by design, but is within the specs. Does anyone have a pdf of the TSB or can they point me to it, haven't seen it yet.

Thanks.

[sijaz]

The TSB is posted on a Rav4 forum. If you don't find it via Google, just PM me and I'll send it to you. This is a Toyota USA TSB that covers Rav4s, Camrys, and some Avalons.

[Vlad1024]

Switching to a slightly thicker oil could help. My scion burned almost a 1.5 quart in 5k when I switched to 0w-20. It is back to burning about .5 on 5w-20. Keep in mind that some brands are thinner than the spec (Mobile 1 comes to mind).