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What's up i have a 03 Camry ,that has started to release white Smoke from the exhaust only on start-up for about a week now., after that i dont see anything not even if i rev up the car..Only on start up..WHY??
What's up i have a 03 Camry ,that has started to release white Smoke from the exhaust only on start-up for about a week now., after that i dont see anything not even if i rev up the car..Only on start up..WHY??
HELP!!
could be the makings of a head gasket about to let go. get to a garage and have them do a cylinder leakage test, and an emissions test (hydrocarbon test) at the radiator cap.
Check for coolant leak from cylinder head bolt thread disintegration. Check the firewall/intake manifold side:
Coolant Loss on 2002-2006 Toyota 2.4L, 2AZFE engines
The following information concerns the loss of coolant on some 2002-2006 Toyota 2.4L, 2AZFE engines. The location of this condition has been noted at the rear of the engine where the cylinder head bolts to the cylinder block.
It has been reported that stripped head bolt threads have been found on some of these engines during tear down. When the two rear head bolts lose their clamping ability they allow coolant to seep out at the rear of the cylinder head.
To repair this condition, engine builders report using thread repair tooling used for various GM engines. Specifically, Cadillac 4.6L engines use the same threaded head bolts (Figure 1). The head bolts for this Toyota engine may be reused if they are not damaged and meet the following length specification.
Using a vernier caliper, measure the length of the head bolts from the seat to the end.
Specified bolt length: 6.350˝ to 6.465˝ (161.3 mm to 164.2 mm). If the length is greater than the maximum, replace the bolt.
This information was provided by the Engine Builders Association (AERA).
Wow sounds good, i been doing research n have, found could be Head Gasket, Coolant getting in the head block, 1 person even told me The intake manifold could be something wrong, not sure bout that,
My car is 03, JUST HIT 65K, NO CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, RUNS SMOOTH paint is good, ... im a have my mechanic check it out 2moro, lets u guys know what it is, Thanks
CAN THIS MESS MY ENGINE UP, LIKE WHTS THE BIGGEST DAMAGE IT COULD DO TO MY CAR, I WANNA GET IT DONE ASAP
Damn today my mechanic told me that its the valves in the motor, he just put his hand when the smoke came out (early around 9am)..smelled it and looked at the oil..and said it would be an expensive job, like 1g..(i dont know how true that is, but lets see, i gonna call my other trusted mechanic, so he can tell me what he thinks, and see if its true what my other mechanic said) he didnt open up the head, but said it cant be the head.. ( something about the valves being toasted and rubbing on something, when my motor is silent so i dont know)...
Damn today my mechanic told me that its the valves in the motor, he just put his hand when the smoke came out (early around 9am)..smelled it and looked at the oil..and said it would be an expensive job, like 1g..(i dont know how true that is, but lets see, i gonna call my other trusted mechanic, so he can tell me what he thinks, and see if its true what my other mechanic said) he didnt open up the head, but said it cant be the head.. ( something about the valves being toasted and rubbing on something, when my motor is silent so i dont know)...
the valve stem seals are cracked, broken, dried out, whatever. the valve guides might be worn out. if you are NOT the first owner of this car, you will never know how it was cared for in the very beginning. the wrong oil could have been used, the oil and filter may not have been changed on time, whatever....could just be "old age" of the valve stem seals.
if this is what you need, then fix it now. it is also a time when the head comes off to maybe change out the camshaft, as the lobes will be worn as well. new stem seals, new valve guides, new gaskets, new oil, new coolant (maybe some hoses, thermostat as well, timing belt, water pump, yeah, a grand is about right.....best to get what needs to be done now, rather than to have BIGGER repairs later.
if this is what you need, then fix it now. it is also a time when the head comes off to maybe change out the camshaft, as the lobes will be worn as well. new stem seals, new valve guides, new gaskets, new oil, new coolant (maybe some hoses, thermostat as well, timing belt, water pump, yeah, a grand is about right.....best to get what needs to be done now, rather than to have BIGGER repairs later.
Stop scaring the guy. Yea, its probably a little oil seeping past the valve stem seals. Really its no big deal. Most old cars do it to some extent. Is your car using any oil between changes? My sons car (03 Camry SE) smokes a little on startup, definitely valve stem seals, and has for a couple of years now. Damage to engine? None. Uses about a quart of oil between changes, not bad for 150K. I'm not fixing them unless the head bolts strip out and I have to take the head off anyway. Btw, in all the years I've worked for Toyota (over 30) I've never seen these engines have bad valve guides, a worn camshaft and if its a 4 cyl (you didn't say) it doesn't even have a timing belt. If this oil thing bothers you that much than you can have an experienced Toyota mechanic change the valve stem seals without even taking the head off. Either way, its not something that absolutely has to be done immediately.
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Stop scaring the guy. Yea, its probably a little oil seeping past the valve stem seals. Really its no big deal. Most old cars do it to some extent. Is your car using any oil between changes? My sons car (03 Camry SE) smokes a little on startup, definitely valve stem seals, and has for a couple of years now. Damage to engine? None. Uses about a quart of oil between changes, not bad for 150K. I'm not fixing them unless the head bolts strip out and I have to take the head off anyway. Btw, in all the years I've worked for Toyota (over 30) I've never seen these engines have bad valve guides, a worn camshaft and if its a 4 cyl (you didn't say) it doesn't even have a timing belt. If this oil thing bothers you that much than you can have an experienced Toyota mechanic change the valve stem seals without even taking the head off. Either way, its not something that absolutely has to be done immediately.
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don't be to overly sure of yourself and think the valve guides cannot be bad..i turned wrenches too for a living and i can assure you, that I HAVE SEEN THEM...
and why not "inform" the guy the way i did..?? what scaring am i doing..?? i am telling him what to look for and think about replacing while the engine is opened up, or would you rather he be told it's a minor job, only to be whacked by a bigger bill because the mechanic DOES NOT TELL him up front what will or might be needed..?? would you rather he be ignorant to the possibilities..??? or EDUCATED towards them....???
I think this is normal and especially during winter.... water vapor.
He's in New York City, and it is August. Global cooling hasn't reached that point just yet.
He should check the radiator overflow to see if it is going down, and check the radiator cap when the engine is cold to see if there is any air. It's probably a blown head gasket as stated, but the steam is coming from some place, and most likely the cooling system will verify that.
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I have the smoke issue with my 04 Toyota Solara. I have just over 123K and it has been smoking for awhile (since 100K). I've tried Seafoam in the gas... someone told me it could be water trying to burn off, because there is no oil smell. Thinking it may be cheap gas or ethanol which seems to be added to most gas know for cost. It just smells like exhaust gases. I've also been told it's my valve seals (valve job) letting oil seep into the combustion chamber producing the smoke (sound's expensive).
I'm not sure what to do. I don't really have a mechanic but I do have a contact that used to work at Toyota for about 15years.
I had a 1986 Cressida and at 300,000 miles we put in valve seals with out taking off the head and it sill used oil till I got rid of it at 529,000 miles.. I used mobil one synthetic oil and it used about a quart every 1500 miles or so.. I would just drive the car check the oil every 1000 miles when the engine is cold and on level ground you get a better reading. The synthetic oil is expensive now then $3.50 a quart now $7.00 to $9.00 a quart Oriley auto parts have thier own brand it cheap and good if you use synthetic oil....
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