Question about 2011 camry se 6 speed transmission 4cyl

[C11Red]

The Question I have is on a take off trying to keep rpm around 2000-2500 the transmission will change into a higher gear I am going to say 4 or 6 and then change right back down to the next lower gear is this normal or not

I took the car into the dealer last week and they reset the relearn on the transmission and it did not seem to fix anything it still does the same thing after driving it a few days


the car has 35000 miles

If i run the rpm up some it seem to change normal but it hunts at lower rpm like it changes to soon and then tries to fix its self by changing back down a gear

Just wanted to see if my car is the only one doing this

What does people think about the transmission fluid not being changed on these transmission for the life of the car (thats what the dealer told me when I asked about changing the fluid)??????????????????

[Luna2]

Have you asked the service department if there is a TSB for the U760 transmission shifting issues. (There is a TSB out, but I will have to go home to find the number for it.) I had mine done for a flair between 2nd and 3rd, at 1500 RPM, didn't correct the problem. The plus for the TSB was the accelerator tip in was made acceptable... (Engine hot or cold, extreamly worse flair when cold.)

Search For the TSB here, it was mentioned.

[sixsix]

Mine does that every now and then. Gets pretty aggravating at times.

[C11Red]

Well I just had to hear what the dealer had to say about this again.
Today I took the car back to the dealer and they let the tech ride with me he said my shift patterns were normal for a 2011 Camry he told me that it tries to get to the highest gear but if there is too much load on the motor it will shift back down a gear I don't like it but I guess it must be normal if the dealer says so right LOL

I have had autos for a long time and this is the first one I have ever had like this all the other ones waited to change into a higher gear when it was time not up and down like this one does It looks like all of this shifting would put extra wear on the transmission but what do I know

From what the tech told me it is doing this to save gas

I asked if I needed to take off faster and he told me that might be a good idea not to try to save gas because it does not gear hunt as bad if its kept at a higher rpm I have been trying to keep it around 2000 - 2500 Guess I Need To Drive It harder LOL

[Luna2]

I located the TSB number for the "ECM/TCM Calibration: Shift Feeling Enhancement" is T-SB-0287-10.
This TSB is;
"To improve the shifting performance and smoothness during acceleration, the Engine Control Module (ECM, SAE term: Powertrain Control Module/PCM) and Transaxle Control Module (TCM) calibration has been revised. Use the following repair procedure to address customer concerns"

The improved throttle "Tip In" eliminated the accelerator at rest dead spot and made the starting off acceleration controllable and much smoother.

I have documented the shift flair (2nd to 3rd) in my transmission lasting 2.33 seconds and it has not set a MIL, yet. Very repeatable, cold start or hot engine.

[cocoLatte]

this is normal. the 6 speed auto in the camry shifts quickly to the highest gear to save gas. this is weird in my opinion, because i noticed that once it shifts to highest gear, the car is slow as a slug..and the slightest pressure on the accelerator drops it down another gear or two sometimes. you just got to get use to the car's transmission. but i do agree that in my mind, it puts more wear and tear on the transmission.

That's why I still like my dad's GEN 5 because his 2004 4 speed auto is great...no constant shifting.

[2002CamLe5spd]

Not trying to piss any one off, but a manual transmission doesn't have that problem at all, just saying.

[C11Red]

Originally Posted by 2002CamLe5spd

Not trying to piss any one off, but a manual transmission doesn't have that problem at all, just saying.

You didn't make me mad I would have a manual transmission but my wife can't (won't learn to drive one) She would have a manual broken in about 30 seconds I tried to get her in one about 25 years ago and it was not a good thing.

But you are right with a manual it only changes gears when you think it should LOL



Well from everyones comments it sounds like my car is normal transmission shifting

Thanks

[speck cc]

i have the same exact issue with my 2011 4cyl se... i cant get use to it... seems like it has to shift 8-10 times to get to 6th gear! to me, this cannot be right??? if i get on it, it shifts perfect... and very smooth. if i take off like normal it shifts hard and back and forth the whole time. I guess this is normal after reading this thread... but would really like to have this resolved!

[C11Red]

Originally Posted by speck cc

i have the same exact issue with my 2011 4cyl se... i cant get use to it... seems like it has to shift 8-10 times to get to 6th gear! to me, this cannot be right??? if i get on it, it shifts perfect... and very smooth. if i take off like normal it shifts hard and back and forth the whole time. I guess this is normal after reading this thread... but would really like to have this resolved!

Yes that is what I told the service tech as he went for a test drive with me he said its normal shifting for the camry he did tell me to give it more fuel on takeoff and that has seem to help some.

The funny thing is I had a 2007 Mercury milan v6 six speed transmission and loved it but it was getting high miles so i wanted something newer with less mile so then I traded for a 2010 Ford Fusion V6 with there new transmission and I hatted that thing from day one and Ford is having a lot of problems out of them just Google it and you can see what I mean So after only having the ford for a few weeks I traded it back to the car lot I bought it from for this 2011 Camry and I am not really happy with its transmission either So I guess its just me and not these new 6 speed transmissions

I think they are trying to shift to a higher gear to better the fuel millage that sometimes it shifts too soon and then corrects its self by down shifting to a lower gear once it finds the engine is overloaded. Thats just my take on all this shifting

I just hope these transmission can take all this shifting in the long haul with out changing the transmission fluid for the life of the transmission LOL I sure hope these engineers have all this figured into the transmissions and the trans fluid.

[JohnGD]

Yeah, shifting into a higher gear to save gas is one thing, but it shouldn't be hunting gears. The Ford Fusion is a dated Mazda-6 and it has (inherited?) the Aisin TF80 series 6-speed transmission. IMO it's just another clunker. Maybe it's cost cutting, but Aisin seems to have problems with water pumps, calipers transmissions and who know what else they touch.

I'm surprised Ford isn't using their own 6F series LePelletier design in the Fusion. They co-developed it with GM who's got the excellent Hydramatic 6T series out of it.

[C11Red]

Originally Posted by JohnGD

Yeah, shifting into a higher gear to save gas is one thing, but it shouldn't be hunting gears. The Ford Fusion is a dated Mazda-6 and it has (inherited?) the Aisin TF80 series 6-speed transmission. IMO it's just another clunker. Maybe it's cost cutting, but Aisin seems to have problems with water pumps, calipers transmissions and who know what else they touch.

I'm surprised Ford isn't using their own 6F series LePelletier design in the Fusion. They co-developed it with GM who's got the excellent Hydramatic 6T series out of it.

Yes Ford did start using the 6f35 transmission in 2010 it is the one that I disliked so much it flare shifted and had hard shifts and so forth they had a tsb where they replaced some clutches and other things if they saw a problem of burnt clutches just google it to see all the hits you get

so far I have not seen the failure rate for the transmission on the internet for the Camry as I have for the Ford Fusion

I sure would like to be able to check the level of fluid in my Toyota camry transmission Does anyone know how this is done?

[JohnGD]

Yeah looks like they did and that's quite a clunker itself compared to GM's 6T series to my surprise. I guess Ford should have stayed with the Aisin hehe

[touringcamry]

Originally Posted by 2002CamLe5spd

Not trying to piss any one off, but a manual transmission doesn't have that problem at all, just saying.

The manual transmission has it's own share of problems due to the slow electronic throttle.

Guessing you haven't driven the newer ones, 2007 and newer, with the throttle lag or programming that blips the throttle to make the engine surge as much as 1000 RPM between shifts even for up shift. The throttle input lag makes for a horrible manual transmission driving experience. Even rev matching can take quite a bit of time because sometimes the engine doesn't surge as much as I think or because it takes quite long after pressing the throttle for the engine to respond to get the revs up.

[Sevn86]

I know this thread is about the manual transmission but can someone point me to the auto transmission issues for the gen 6.5 camrys. My SE is crazy! When I let off the accelerator it jumps rpm and then finally shift down. Is that normal? Also when I take of it does this. Driving me crazy! Any TSB for this?