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Old 10-30-2012, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How to connect 12 Volt Power Outlet to Fuse Box

How do I connect this ↓ to Camry 2002 Fuse Box - down, to the left of the steering wheel? Where do the red & black go?


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How do I connect this ↓ to Camry 2002 Fuse Box - down, to the left of the steering wheel? Where do the red & black go?


Red is +12v, wire it to a fuse that has power applied the way you want it (IE all of the time or with the accessories on).
Black is return/ground, any good place on the chassis.

From the question, I would find someone to do the install for you, as you could mess up your car or what you plug into the socket/outlet.

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Old 10-31-2012, 07:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you for your reply. I managed to do and write about how to do this:
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So do you think you can give me a few hints, I know Black is ground and Red is +12V. How do you find, a fuse that has "power applied the way you want it"? Is there a guide, is there anything that can help me figure this out. This is a second forum I am posting on. On the first one I posted, they insisted I pay somebody to do it. I had a guy PM me and email me to pay him to do it, but nobody would post anything about how to do it.


Is connecting these two wires for some reason harder than connecting an entire stereo, a component speaker set, a rear speaker set or connecting an amp? I definitely do not want to mess this up, but I would like to at least understand why connecting two wires is hard enough not to even try.

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If it was me i would buy this
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then connect it to the + battery post, extend the wire to reach the mounting location by the steering wheel and connect it to your socket. That way it would not in any way interfere with your cars electric system. You need to use a thick wire, as thick as what the socket you have has.


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Pls post search name or ASIN number because forums block amazon links. I would like to see what the item you are talking about is.

Thank you for your advice.


So if connected to Fuse Box, it would interfere?
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Do a search on amazon for "inline fuse holder".

Connecting to a currently in-use fuse in the fuse box will draw more current from that particular fuse. That means you will need a bigger fuse. Using a bigger fuse will not protect the wiring for that system in case something happens.

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Pls post search name or ASIN number because forums block amazon links. I would like to see what the item you are talking about is.

Thank you for your advice.


So if connected to Fuse Box, it would interfere?


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Thanks for explaining, I really appreciate it. By "in that system" what do you mean, the whatever is connected to it?


Would it make a difference if the pictured item in post#1 is used only for a radar detector and nothing else ever? I'd kind of like to have it hooked up right above the fuse box on the dash board and it doesn't draw that much power to mess things up, does it?

How would I go about selecting where to connect, just for my information?


As for Amazon, I did a search for "inline fuse holder" and first hit is "In-line ACT Water-resistant Fuse Holder - 10 AWG" is that what you mean? Do I need to buy additional wire for that?
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Do a search on amazon for "inline fuse holder".
I found a better deal. For ten bucks (!) I got a Pyle 20 Feet 8 Gauge 1000 Watts Amp Kit. Before jumping on this deal, I would note that the Kit is terrible for actual amp installs but I get everything I need for the cig lighter install, right?

So I may need some advice on what to actually do to use the amp kit to install the 12V Power Outlet pictured in post#1. I also assume that now I can even run the air compressor through it?


  • Kit includes 20 8-gauge red power wire, 4 8-gauge black ground wire
  • 20 16-gauge blue remote turn-on, 20 12-gauge speaker wire, 20 right angle RCA interconnect audio cable conduit.
  • 6 black split loom cable conduit, AGU type 60A gold plated fuse
  • Water-resistant in-line fuse holder
  • 2 ring terminals\
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Since you are only using it to power a radar detector why not use one of these duplex adapaters that allow you to plug 2 items in to the existing cigarette lighter. The radar dectector does not draw a lot of amps and this would be plug and play setup. If you don't have a Harbor freight store in your area most auto parts stores carry these.

http://www.harborfreight.com/12-volt...ter-67073.html

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I can answer your question but I hope this doesn't take us away from my question.


I have two 12 Volt Power Outlets pictured in post #1.

1. One is for a car where the cig lighter blew out when an air compressor was used. That car has zero working cig lighters. I thought I would use the amp kit to connect battery to the 12V Power Outlet.

I am guessing that this will resolve that car's problem and I can from then on use air compressors and other items with no prob, using exactly what you linked to as a splitter?


2. The other one is for my car, I placed the radar detector in the driver side corner of the dash board. I am running an extension cord but thought I could keep it cleaner by simply connecting the radar detector to the 12V power Outlet which I thought I could connect to the Fuse Box.

Will radar detector's power be a problem for the fuse box and more importantly: what do I connect the red to and what the black wire to inside the Fuse Box of a Camry 2002?
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1. One is for a car where the cig lighter blew out when an air compressor was used. That car has zero working cig lighters. I thought I would use the amp kit to connect battery to the 12V Power Outlet.
Have you used a volt meter to verify there is power at the plug that attaches to the back of the accessory socket from the car?

The accessory socket on mine had an extra fuse built into the back, that is not mentioned in any of Toyota's documentation. I corrected sockets fuse being open problem and now that socket is working. Just a thought.

Now where to connect the socket you have to get power.

In post 2, above, I listed an option for you.
"Red is +12v, wire it to a fuse that has power applied the way you want it (IE all of the time or with the accessories on)."

Now if you want it on all of the time.
Use a voltmeter locate an active 12 volt source in the fuse box (with the key off).

Pull the fuse, probe the opening and find out which part of the open fuse position has the 12v.
Get a tap a fuse adapter and attach it to the fuse you removed.
Now plug the fuse back in, with the adapter on the correct end for the power source.
Now the 12v source end is exposed for you to add the new fuse holder and socket to.

Now if you want it switched on.
Repeat the above process turning the key to accessory, then turn the key to off, if the 12v goes away, you found a spot you can use.

Pull the fuse, probe the opening and find out which part of the open fuse position has the 12v with the switch on.
Verify it goes off with the key off.
Get a tap a fuse adapter and attach it to the fuse you removed.
Now plug the fuse back in, with the adapter on the correct end for the power source.
Now the switched 12v source end is exposed for you to add the new fuse holder and socket to.

If you have power seats or windows, that circuit could be tapped for higher current devices, because it isn't used all of the time and turns off with the switch. Just don't use the high current add on when using the windows or seat. The same holds true for the remote mirror adjuster (lower current demands), for just what you want is fine, as mine is fused at 10 amps, more than enough power to operate the mirror and the detector as an add on, at the same time.
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The burnt socket is on the other car, Subaru Baja 2003 and yes, Subaru dealership wants $150 to fix it precisely because there is a fuse on the back of the original socket and no other socket will work. That is why I thought I would use a new power wire plus socket pictured in post#1 instead for that car. I understand with new wire and new fuse that comes inside an amp kit, I can run whatever I want off of it safely and comfortably.


I do also want to install the power socket off of the Fuse Box. Thank you kindly for the instructions on Fuse Box, you are the first person on multiple forums to give me this info this week. Your post above was Gold!

I did an search for "Fuse Tap Adaptor Adapter" and it all makes sense now. That was key to the solution of this problem. Thank you.








No real need to have it on all the time, I thought it would be used only when car is running. So which Fuse should I tap on each car. Camry has power seats, but not Baja. THey both have power windows. Camry has power door mirrors too. I think Baja does too.


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The burnt socket is on the other car, Subaru Baja 2003 and yes, Subaru dealership wants $150 to fix it precisely because there is a fuse on the back of the original socket and no other socket will work. That is why I thought I would use a new power wire plus socket pictured in post#1 instead for that car. I understand with new wire and new fuse that comes inside an amp kit, I can run whatever I want off of it safely and comfortably.


I do also want to install the power socket off of the Fuse Box. Thank you kindly for the instructions on Fuse Box, you are the first person on multiple forums to give me this info this week. Your post above was Gold!

I did an search for "Fuse Tap Adaptor Adapter" and it all makes sense now. That was key to the solution of this problem. Thank you.








No real need to have it on all the time, I thought it would be used only when car is running. So which Fuse should I tap on each car. Camry has power seats, but not Baja. THey both have power windows. Camry has power door mirrors too. I think Baja does too.


• Toyota Camry 2002:






• Subaru Baja 2003:


Using the inside fuse block, I would use #4, as it should be off with the ignition switch being off.
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Check. For the Subaru, use 20 A Cigarette Lighter, Remote Controlled Rear View Mirrors.


And for the Camry, since #25 appears to be 20A Seat Heater, which my Camry does not have, can it be used for what we are trying to do? Or should I select another one for the Camry?


And where exactly do I hook up the black wire to - on or near that fuse box?
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Check. For the Subaru, use 20 A Cigarette Lighter, Remote Controlled Rear View Mirrors.


And for the Camry, since #25 appears to be 20A Seat Heater, which my Camry does not have, can it be used for what we are trying to do? Or should I select another one for the Camry?


And where exactly do I hook up the black wire to - on or near that fuse box?
Locate a screw or bolt that is attached to a metal part and bolts to a metal part, scrape a clear spot in the metal under the bolt head and using a loop type wire lug, insert the bolt and torque the bolt down. (A nut on a stud bolt will work also.)

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