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Old 11-30-2012, 09:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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gen 7 2011 toyota Camry le shaking at 65ph

I bought this car new around 6,000 miles the dealer machine the rotors (front only) do to a vibration when I was braking to make a long story short I took the car to 4 different mechanics including 2 toyota dealership. The car vibrates at 65mph they did 2 alignments, I got new tires, balanced the tires like 10 times by different mechanics, got new rims and tires, check all the suspension parts and the car still shakes I don't know what to do next I need help guys........my next step is changing the rotors and brakes on the front and see what happens... Because the shaking start after they machine the rotors.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Could it just be a bent rim?
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What kind of wheels do you have? What kind of tires do you have? How many miles after a certain repair do you get the vibration back? Does it vibrate constantly or only when braking? Is the shaking in the seat/car body or steering wheel? Shaking in brake pedal/floor?
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Did the dealer mechanics take it to 65mph and experience the shaking for themselves?

If not, they must take to the highway and you must make sure that they've documented a non-repairable condition...and you have to get Toyota to replace the car

...all of your expenses are proof of a serious failure and you need to have TOYOTA MANAGEMENT, NOT US, solve and resolve your car's condition...

You can't continue to be driving a car in that condition...at least in my humble opinion.
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Old 12-01-2012, 08:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If your car is still under warranty, the dealer should be covering the brake system and should be the ones investigating and resolving the issue - not you. But for your piece of mind, the vibration is more than likely caused an uneven surface on the rotors from:
1. Poorly machined rotors, and/or
2. Not using new brake pads with the newly machined rotors, and/or
3. Missing/loose hardware during the reassembly of the brake parts

What's most likely happening is the pads are trying to grab the rotors; but because of the uneven surface on the rotors, the pads are forced to repeatedly release and grab the rotors.
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I replaced the stock tires and rims with 17"s new from eBay.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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They don't wanna drive my car because the limit around the dealer is 55mph and the highway it's too far away.
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I see two problems you will have with the dealer...

1. You are no longer riding on FACTORY wheels...and YOU replaced them...sooo...
The dealer MAY deny any responsibility for the ride problem

If the rims have been inspected and shown to NOT be OUT OF ROUND then you may still be in a position to expect Toyota to resolve the problem...

....but since you bought the wheels off EBAY you have another problem...any "warranty" you had may have had for the purchase is likely to have expired unless you bought a warranty from Square Deal...did you?

2. The 2nd issue I don't understand is how the dealer can refuse to make the effort required to EXPERIENCE and EVALUATE the problem...

If the dealer wouldn't take it to 65mph BEFORE you bought the new wheels you may still be able to register a complaint with some success...

Good luck...
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I bought this car new around 6,000 miles the dealer machine the rotors (front only) do to a vibration when I was braking to make a long story short I took the car to 4 different mechanics including 2 toyota dealership. The car vibrates at 65mph they did 2 alignments, I got new tires, balanced the tires like 10 times by different mechanics, got new rims and tires, check all the suspension parts and the car still shakes I don't know what to do next I need help guys........my next step is changing the rotors and brakes on the front and see what happens... Because the shaking start after they machine the rotors.
sometimes the half shafts have balance weights on them. one shaft may have thrown one off. being so new a car, maybe the spot where a weight was welded to, my still be "cleaner" that the rest of the shaft.

it could be that during a test drive of the car...or if this was once a dealer's loaner car, that the person driving it, curbed the car and slightly bent the half shaft.

for your dealer NOT to take this on a road test all because the highway is "too far" smells of BS to me..

you should go there and tell them that YOU WILL DRIVE the freaking car for them, so this way, should a speeding ticket take place..?? YOU GET IT, not the tech.

but YOU DID replace wheels....this CAN BE a problem, as it is NOT factory original now, and the dealer CAN AND WILL, deny any further claims.

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At 65mph if you aren't pressing the brakes then it shouldn't really be a brake or rotor issue. And if it goes away at say 70 or 75mph then that would seem to point to a tire balance issue. If you get aftermarket rim they sometimes don't have an outer lip to attach wheel weights and sometimes the adhesive weights don't extend far enough to the outer edge to properly balance the wheel.
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I don't see an issue with the aftermarket rims, just take them off and put the originals back on, and make them fix it.

I'm unclear if you bought it new, or with 6000 miles? That's kind of a long sentence you have going there. If new, has it done this since the beginning? Or only since the brake issue?
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Aftermarket wheels do not void the warranty.

The only time an aftermarket item will void the warranty, is if it was that aftermarket item that caused the problem. Since the problem existed before you put on the wheels, then that means they were not the cause and the dealership still has to honor the warranty.

ONLY if the dealership is able to prove that it is the aftermarket wheels causing the problem can they deny coverage, but ONLY for that specific problem related to the wheel and it does not void the rest of your warranty.

My advise it to take it to another dealership for a second opinion, and to also put back on your original wheels just in case the EBAY wheels are also adding to the problem. (Buying wheels off of ebay is a bad idea IMO)
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, here is my 2 cents...

I test drove a 2011 camry xle a month ago. It was a transfer from like florida. The same thing happened to it, you'd be driving along and everything was smooth and working wonderfully. But, you tap those breaks, and bam.. the steering wheel would shake and the whole car would get a little shaky. We talked to the sales person and sorta worked through it. It's most probably warped calipers/rotors/pads.. you've replaced a lot of things so far, when i would imagine the first place to look would be the device that gets activated when you break, and that's the calipers.

They replaced the calipers and pads and bam.. beautiful. So, i'd say it's almost 100% bad calipers..

Just my 2 cents like i said. sometimes they get warped if you change environments like Florida to Utah or something dramatic.
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Well, here is my 2 cents...

I test drove a 2011 camry xle a month ago. It was a transfer from like florida. The same thing happened to it, you'd be driving along and everything was smooth and working wonderfully. But, you tap those breaks, and bam.. the steering wheel would shake and the whole car would get a little shaky. We talked to the sales person and sorta worked through it. It's most probably warped calipers/rotors/pads.. you've replaced a lot of things so far, when i would imagine the first place to look would be the device that gets activated when you break, and that's the calipers.

They replaced the calipers and pads and bam.. beautiful. So, i'd say it's almost 100% bad calipers..

Just my 2 cents like i said. sometimes they get warped if you change environments like Florida to Utah or something dramatic.

His problem seems to happen even when not braking. He also resurfaced his rotors and had the dealership check the brakes.

Although the OP hasn't answered many of the questions asked and isn't giving a lot of detail, so it is hard to draw conclusions about certain things.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I bought this car new around 6,000 miles the dealer machine the rotors (front only) do to a vibration when I was braking

I think it was only when he was braking.. like he said in the first post.
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