Gen5 BIG BRAKE KIT now available!

[Mikey21]

After almost a year of searching for a big brake kit for the Gen 5 Camry, one is now available.

Stop Tech

It comes with 13" 2 -piece Rotors, 4 - Piston Calipers, Stainless Steel Brake Lines and Axxis Ultimate brake pads. The price is $1,995.00 which is a little too steep for me but I'm passing along the info for those in need. When you get to the website search for 2004 Camry. The kit only comes up for the 2004 but should fit any Gen5 to 2005.

[terrastrife]

i thought rotora made big brake kits already?

[white3ch0c0late]

Jebus... 2G's??? Screw that...

[terrastrife]

2 is cheap.

[Hamsterman]

those would really look sick on the gen5, me likey...

i should get my dad to buy some for his ride lol

[fungke]

those look nice...but 2 grand....

[Dj-torn]

In the group buy section there is Rota big brake for all Gen's, and it was 10% off msrp... double check though

[Super Kaioken]

blah 2 Grand is too much for me.......especially for brakes. i'm just get rims/kit for 2.

[Mikey21]

Originally Posted by UfoZ

Well, the only reason anybody would need a brake upgrade this serious is if they are laying down some big horsepower numbers or for a show car (need the bling). Otherwise, on a stock or mostly stock car, just upgrading your pads and lines would be plenty good for an upgrade.

Ufoz,

I totally agree with you. I want a Big Brake kit but not that serious of one. I don't race and my Camry's not a show car. For $2,000 you can buy an awful lot of shit for your ride.

The Gen5's are all newer vehicles, so people bought Gen5 Camrys because it filled they're needs. If they were going autocrossing, drag racing, road racing or street racing the Camry wouldn't have been their first choice. So why can't the aftermarket manufactures figure that out?

If I'm an aftermarket manufacturer I would design a big brake kit with the owners of Camry's in mind. There are more Camry's out there than any other car I see.

1. One piece over sized slotted rotors. (one piece to keep costs down)
2. 2 - piston red calipers. (instead of 4 - piston to keep costs down)
3. Stainless Steel Brake Lines
4. Performance Street Ceramic Brake pads. (Race Ceramics are not neccessary for the street)

I believe a kit like that would cost less than $800.00. And at that price it would fill just about all our needs. Much better braking performance than stock, and the LOOK. Only possible downside might be that it weighs a little more than stock.

Mike

[1kdude]

Originally Posted by Mikey21

Ufoz,

I totally agree with you. I want a Big Brake kit but not that serious of one. I don't race and my Camry's not a show car. For $2,000 you can buy an awful lot of shit for your ride.

The Gen5's are all newer vehicles, so people bought Gen5 Camrys because it filled they're needs. If they were going autocrossing, drag racing, road racing or street racing the Camry wouldn't have been their first choice. So why can't the aftermarket manufactures figure that out?

If I'm an aftermarket manufacturer I would design a big brake kit with the owners of Camry's in mind. There are more Camry's out there than any other car I see.

1. One piece over sized slotted rotors. (one piece to keep costs down)
2. 2 - piston red calipers. (instead of 4 - piston to keep costs down)
3. Stainless Steel Brake Lines
4. Performance Street Ceramic Brake pads. (Race Ceramics are not neccessary for the street)

I believe a kit like that would cost less than $800.00. And at that price it would fill just about all our needs. Much better braking performance than stock, and the LOOK. Only possible downside might be that it weighs a little more than stock.



Mike

Me 3, I also wonder if any of the 93-98 Supra brakes would fit on a Camry, since they cost $40K+, I suppose they had better brakes than a Camry?

[StopTech]

Originally Posted by UfoZ

Well, basically when a manufacturer is producing a brake kit for anything from a Camry to an RX7 to anything inbetween, they are essentially just adapting the same old shit to different cars. Everything they throw on to each car is identical. They just make a set of SS lines to fit each car, and the brackets to fit the calipers on there. Nothing special.

If you want to do an upgrade like the one you want (2 pistons calipers, bigger rotors), just hit up a company like Wilwood that sells just their calipers separately and rotors, call up a machine shop and have them make you some brackets and custom SS brake lines. Youll probably end up just a little over your price range, depending on what brands you go with.

As for the Supra upgrade... Same thing... You just need brackets to fit their calipers/rotors to whatever car and brake lines. See my sig (I have Supra brakes) for pics.

You are acutally partly right. The majority of brake manufacturers do take the same parts(usually same caliper) and bolt them on to each car with brackets that have a multitude of holes to fit multiple platforms. This is true for many brake manufacturers, but not all.

Now the optimum suspenion solution for a camry certainly wouldn't be the brakes off of a Ferrari, so why would the optimum brakes be off of some other sports car. We make all of our kits for each platform specifically. If you get a camry kit, the brake kit would be different from that of a RX-7. Different lines, different hats, different brackets and different piston sizing in the calipers.

[touringcamry]

I'm curious, but since the brake rotors are bigger, wouldn't that mean more rotational inertia causing slower acceleration? Unless there is brake fade, is there much reason to upgrade the brakes to something like these even if no brake fade is experienced during racing? Will it really stop the car that much quicker since there will be some point where tires can't hold any more and the wheels lock up. I know not all Gen5 have ABS.

[Mikey21]

Originally Posted by touringcamry

I'm curious, but since the brake rotors are bigger, wouldn't that mean more rotational inertia causing slower acceleration? Unless there is brake fade, is there much reason to upgrade the brakes to something like these even if no brake fade is experienced during racing? Will it really stop the car that much quicker since there will be some point where tires can't hold any more and the wheels lock up. I know not all Gen5 have ABS.

First Off, Stop Tech Welcome to Toyotanation!

I'm not a brake expert like the guys from Stop Tech but I'd like to give this one a shot.
About the rotating weight, Stop Tech lists the weight of the 332x32mm 2 piece rotor at 15.0 lbs., and I couldn't find the OEM rotor weight any where on the web but my stock rotors feel heavier than 15.0 lbs.. If it is heavier than the OEM it's just barely. Now that you're talking about rotating weight here's some food for thought. I'm anal about just about everything. So when I looked into new rims and tires for my ride, weight was a important factor because as you stated I was concerned about rotational weight. I went from a 215/60-16 to a 225/45-18. I picked a light weight rim and Z rated tires. Being the anal person I am I weighed the factory wheels and then the new ones before mounting them. Boy was I pissed. I gained a little over 10 lbs. per wheel. But once I drove it all my worries went away. Accelerates harder, brakes faster and talk about turning on a dime. With the average Camry coming in at around 3,500 lbs. or more, a slight difference in rotaing weight ain't going to make much of a difference.

As far as the second question? Yes!

Shorter stopping distances could have prevented this!



I was only going around 25 MPH and got hard on the brakes when I got cut off. I had about 30 feet or so to stop, but was still going about 5 MPH when we hit. I think I needed only about 3 more feet to have avoided this.

[terrastrife]

pull handbrake and go sideways a bit to increase effective stopping distance

now if those wheels were magnesium, theyd be light, but theyre not so...

[StopTech]

Originally Posted by touringcamry

I'm curious, but since the brake rotors are bigger, wouldn't that mean more rotational inertia causing slower acceleration? Unless there is brake fade, is there much reason to upgrade the brakes to something like these even if no brake fade is experienced during racing? Will it really stop the car that much quicker since there will be some point where tires can't hold any more and the wheels lock up. I know not all Gen5 have ABS.

The two piece rotors from the kits reduce weight dramatically, but with the weight moved further from the center, some more power is being used to turn the wheel. The difference is only about 6 hp.

Stock brakes are capable of what most people use their car for. Once you take that car to the track, those brakes will more than likely fade. The temperatures that the brakes reach while at the track are much higher than street driving or auto-x. Auto-x has 2-3 min runs are the longest. Track sessions have much higher speeds and sessions go for 20-30min. The issues faced on the track are a whole new monster.

So long as the stock brakes are capable of activating abs, there is nothing the brake system can do. Stopping distance is completely dependant upon the available tractions of the tires. If any brake company claims that the brakes can shorten stopping distances by 30ft, they are not telling the truth. The big brake kits main function is to give more heat capacity. Once the stock brakes fade, wheel lock-up/abs activation is no longer possible.

All this is speaking from a performance stand point. Some people just like to have some good looking brakes behind their wheels. As you know there are people out there with 24" wheels that decrease performance, but people still put them on their car.