'08 Hybrid Mileage - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

Catrinka · 03-12-2008, 07:59 PM

I am averaging 8.0 L/100 Km or 31.73 MPG. I was hoping for more. The literature said I could expect 5.7 L/100 Km or 50 MPG. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, does the battery icon ever "fill up"? Mine is always just below the "terminals".

Should winter conditions and driving up hills change the expected gas efficiency?

I appreciate your input. Thanks.

Catrinka

Tideland Prius · 03-12-2008, 09:07 PM

Given that it's winter and your car is new, that seems fine (heck, that's Corolla official city mileage!).

Note, ALL cars get worse mileage in the winter. It seems like people only notice it with hybrids because they actually tell you and people pay attention. Your previous car does NOT get the advertised mileage in the middle of winter (esp. in the Okanagan winters). So you're fine. Wait til May/June ish (Assuming you've driven the car enough to pass the break-in period and then some).

The combination of:

1. warmer temps
2. less heater usage (engine warms up faster)
3. summer fuel (less additive, more fuel)
4. less stress on the vehicle's electrical system (heated seats, rear defroster etc)

will increase mileage. Jul/Aug might see a slight drop since I'm assuming you'll want the A/C to run.

The battery never fills up unless you go down the Coquihalla (or whatever hills you have nearby). It's designed to be kept at 60% (roughly where you're seeing it). At "full", it's only 80% SOC in actuality. So don't worry about it. The car will take care of itself.

razol · 03-13-2008, 03:16 PM

To echo the previous response. I get slightly worse fuel economy in winter. When my car was new it was unimpressive like you describe. Normally I am betting about 37.5 MPG, in the winter I am getting 36.3. I suspect this has to do with the gas engine running more at idle to keep the essential parts warm.

Do not fret, your car will do better once it is broken in and it warms up a bit.

For reference sake, I drive about half of my commute at highway speeds in mountainous terrain and the other half in heavy congestion, for a total of about 45 miles each way.

Rosie158 · 03-14-2008, 09:40 PM

Driving 50 miles each way to wrk at highway speeds, I consistently get 38 - 39 mpg on a tankful over 2,500 miles. The car is broken in with 24,000 miles on the odometer. I've tried driving faster and slower, i.e. 75 versus 65 - I love the speed control - but I really haven;t seen any big difference in fuel consumption.

I had owned an Insight a few years ago and learned some of the hypermileage tricks. Haven't had the opportunity to try them on the TCH yet. But will once the weather warms up.

Catrinka · 03-15-2008, 12:18 PM

Thanks for your response, I feel better. Still wondering why the literature says I'll get 50 MPG - any idea?

Jeff Lange · 03-15-2008, 12:34 PM

First of all, 8.0L/100km is actually 35.31 MPG (Imperial MPG), and only 29.4 MPG (US MPG). Toyota Canada advertises in imperial MPG, which is quite a bit higher than US MPG. 50 MPG in Canada is only 41 MPG in the US. What this means is that people in the US claiming 36-38 MPG are actually closer to 43.5 - 45.5 MPG in Canada (which is a lot closer to the claimed "50 MPG").

I'd wait for the summer and after break-in and see what you can get then.

Jeff

Catrinka · 03-15-2008, 01:12 PM

Thanks Jeff. I will hope to get better mileage in the summer. Is this level of consumption "good" compared to other vehicles? Thanks.

Jeff Lange · 03-15-2008, 01:15 PM

Well, my 2009 Corolla XRS 5-speed with the same 2.4L engine, but obviously not Hybrid has just under 1000km on it, and I'm usually getting about 9.6L/100km right now, (30 Canadian MPG), and my car weighs quite a bit less and is smaller than a Camry, so all that taken into account, I'd say even though you're not hitting the recommended mileage (I'm not with my Corolla yet either), you're still getting pretty decent.

Jeff

Tideland Prius · 03-15-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Catrinka

Is this level of consumption "good" compared to other vehicles? Thanks.

Like I said, 8.0L/100km is about what you'd get in a 1.8 litre Corolla (Jeff has a 2.4 litre version) in the city in the summer.

So yeah, that's pretty damn good. Of course once summer rolls around and you learn how to drive the Hybrid for max economy, you can easily bring it down to 5.7L/100km. Driven normally, I'll probably wager you'll be around 6.5-7 in the summer.

soulrobber · 03-16-2008, 03:08 PM

i have a 07 camry hybrid and it gets about 37mpg. i do alot of short distance driving so i dont believe i get as much consistancy as i can with longer distances. i get over 40+ mpg sometimes on trips.

one thing to keep in mind is, some truck may posts from the dealer that it gets 15mpg. under "real" daily driving conditions, it probably gets like 12mpg. if he floors it out of every corner like most trucks do, then hes probably getting like 9mpg, but im sure he will believe hes still getting around 15mpg.

camrydanny · 03-16-2008, 09:02 PM

hi
i drive in the toronto area
i was getting 6.0l/100km in the summer, now im getting around 6.7-7.0
so it will get better, that combo city/highway, so transport canadas # are for real, i have a 2007 camry hybrid
thanks
dan

Tideland Prius · 03-17-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by soulrobber

i have a 07 camry hybrid and it gets about 37mpg. i do alot of short distance driving so i dont believe i get as much consistancy as i can with longer distances. i get over 40+ mpg sometimes on trips.

one thing to keep in mind is, some truck may posts from the dealer that it gets 15mpg. under "real" daily driving conditions, it probably gets like 12mpg. if he floors it out of every corner like most trucks do, then hes probably getting like 9mpg, but im sure he will believe hes still getting around 15mpg.

Damn... those 18" IS rims? (wait, have I asked you before? Cause I recall seeing a TCH with IS rims.. don't remember which type).

That looks realllly nice.

hmm.. I should read before I type eh? It says so right in your sig above the pic lol. Sorry, mesmerized by the pic. =P

UWAdventurer · 03-17-2008, 06:41 PM

We have 2000+ miles on our 2008 and are getting 41 MPG. We live in Indiana. Seems good to us as it is still cold here, temps in the 30's-40's. We commute 70 miles a day round trip to work. We love the car.

soulrobber · 03-19-2008, 07:56 PM

just did a little calculation... i have a 07 camry hybrid that currently has over 17k miles already. i was wondering so far how much i woulda saved if i didnt get a hybrid and instead got the V6.

V6 gets average 23.5mpg
my Hybrid gets average 37.5mpg (does anyone know why the 08hybrid posted on the toyota site says only 33/34mpg?)
btw, those mpg numbers are just the average posted city/hwy

gas here in cali last time i checked was around 3.65$

factor in the 17k miles and that means i saved 985$ on gas over the V6 so far!
compared to my old FJ cruiser i saved 1794$!

soulrobber · 03-19-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

Damn... those 18" IS rims? (wait, have I asked you before? Cause I recall seeing a TCH with IS rims.. don't remember which type).

That looks realllly nice.

hmm.. I should read before I type eh? It says so right in your sig above the pic lol. Sorry, mesmerized by the pic. =P

thx!