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Old 09-25-2008, 11:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Canada TCH in really COLD weather

For those of you who live in Canada or cold climates, can you please let me know how good is the heater on the TCH. Does it take a long time to get heat in Winter. I live in Toronto, Canada and it sometimes get -30C (-22F). With my current Corolla, I get heat in about 5 minutes after starting the car.

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Old 09-25-2008, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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From what I have read, the TCH has an electric heater to supplement the standard one, so I would guess that some heat will be there quite soon after startup.

I'm about to find out myself soon as winter is coming and we get Real Winter here in the west (-40 for days on end)

It will be interesting to see how the fuel consumption will fare in the cold days of winter.

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Old 10-02-2008, 02:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You'll find it pretty typical of most conventional cars for providing heat on very cold days. On those days, the engine will pretty much run continuously. In fact, on those few times I've started mine on those -30C days, the "ready" light did not even come on until the engine had started (normally the engine starts about 7 secs after the ready light comes on). The electric heater mentioned previously I believe will help get a window de-"ice fogged" a bit faster than waiting for the conventional coolant system based heater to warm up, but isn't going to make much of a difference to you.

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Old 10-02-2008, 04:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For those of you who live in Canada or cold climates, can you please let me know how good is the heater on the TCH. Does it take a long time to get heat in Winter. I live in Toronto, Canada and it sometimes get -30C (-22F). With my current Corolla, I get heat in about 5 minutes after starting the car.
It's better than your Corolla. And it's no worse than any car its size.
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Old 10-05-2008, 10:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi
I live in Brampton, Ontario
I have a 2008 Camery Hybird and found last winter it defrosted quicker than my normal gas car. ( heated seats are a bonus )
Fuel will go down quicker. Usally 7.5 to 9 liters per 100. Once again short trips use the most gas and longer trips use less in winter.
Summer is just the opposite.

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Old 10-09-2008, 06:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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heater works very well including extreme cold. Coldest weather will cost you some mpg but comfort is not an issue.
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Old 10-10-2008, 07:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi. I had my Camry Hybrid through two winters. No issue with heat. I have a garage, so it is fine normally, but I deliberately left it out one night with -28C unplugged in howling wind. In the morning When I pressed the On button, It just lit up and drove away as normal. The ICE started as normal after I had moved about ten feet. The heater was blowing lukewarm in two blocks. It was toasty warm as normal after about 5 Kliks. I park outside all day at work on a parking lot, and it never flinched at all. I considered the heater to be very adequate. That is Winnipeg winters. I do have the heated seats and that is really great. I can feel the warmth within about two blocks, and I am sure that has to be a contributing fact to me feeling warm in winter. I just love the car.
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Philliph: what are your mileage averages summer/winter? Just heading into my first winter in Winterpeg with the TCH! :-)
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You guys probably don't want to hear from me about winter weather. . .
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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North of Ottawa I'm getting 5.8 in the summer and 7.5 in mid winter -20c. The shorter your trip higher the number in cold temps
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi,
I am in Toronto. I record the mileage when fill up the tank, then caculate manually, not look at the display. Hope this is the right way to do so.
What I got the last 3 time fill up calculation is:
Sept 30th, 2008: 30.742L drove 533KM = 5.77L/100KM
Oct 14th, 2008: 26.531L drove 408KM = 6.51L/100KM
Nov 04, 2008: 29.295L drove 351KM = 8.35L/100KM

What a increase!
The average temp in Toronto is: Sept 15°C, Oct 9°C and Nov 3°C
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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wow... time to whip out the block heater!

Yeah in winter on the west coast, I'll be happy to break 4.7L/100km in the Prius during the winter. In the summer 4.3L/100km is the norm while winter is closer to 5 or 6L/100km and we're warmer than you!
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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First cold day!!! Well, if you call ~40F cold. Took the Camry to the ville on Saturday morning. Plenty of heat from the heater.... well, more than enough for Texas Hill Country in early November any way.

What I noticed is that the ICE ran almost constantly. I guess to keep the heat up in the heater. And Boy Howdy!!! did it ever suck down the gas mileage. It was absolutely amazing!!!

I made a return trip to the 'ville about mid day when the temps were in the 70's. What a difference!!! The ICE ran about the same as I have come to expect for that kind of a day. I managed to edge the MPG up to about 36.5....

Back in the '60s my old man had a '59 Benz 190 gasser ... on of those beasts with the pontoon fenders. Pretty nice car for its day. One of the accessories was a grill/radiator 'blankie'. It fit on the outside of the grill and blocked off the air flow to keep the engine warm and the air out of its big vertical radiator. It attached using some push buttons that extended a "J" shaped wire that caught the grill. Easy on... easy off! Also there were some 'windows' that could be folded down to partially increase the air flow without taking the 'blankie' off the car.

I'm wondering why someone hasn't come up with a very nice looking custom fit 'blankie' for winter wear on the TCH....

Cheers!

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Old 11-10-2008, 08:08 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I love how quick the car heats up - much faster than my Pilot
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