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Old 07-19-2009, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question how long TCH can stay starting using battery power?

Hi everybody,

I am in BKK, Thailand and trying to do the research on TCH. In Thailand, we also have camry forum. However Hybrid is to be launched on 27 this month. Therefore no one in Thailand has any real driving experience on TCH.

I would like to know how long TCH can stay starting on gear "N" using only battery power.

In BKK, the traffic is so heavy. In the rush hour, I used to stop a car in gear "N" for 30 mins.

Can battery supply power to the electric motor that long?

If it can, I think TCH is the solution to my lifestyle.

Thanks.
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The TCH will start the engine using the traction battery by itself. You do not need to do anything other than get in, push the start button and go. If the traction battery starts to run a low state of charge, the engine will start and recharge the battery. I know the traffic that you are in having been thru Bangkok, Jakarta and Manila traffic over the years.

The Toyota system is ideal for the traffic patterns you will encounter (sitting for 30 minutes to move 100 meters) and with the increased cost of gas, you will be happy with it. If you do buy a TCH, let us know how you like it.
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Did I read somewhere that the Hybrid Battery will not charge if the transmission is placed in "N"? I thought I saw that somewhere but cannot locate the reference. So if the TCH transmission placed in "N" for 30 minutes when stuck in traffic, what are the expected results as to any battery charging for both batteries?
My 2010 TCH due in next month so still gathering information.

BTW, I passed through Bangkok on my way to Udorn in 1970.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi everybody,

I am in BKK, Thailand and trying to do the research on TCH. In Thailand, we also have camry forum. However Hybrid is to be launched on 27 this month. Therefore no one in Thailand has any real driving experience on TCH.

I would like to know how long TCH can stay starting on gear "N" using only battery power.

In BKK, the traffic is so heavy. In the rush hour, I used to stop a car in gear "N" for 30 mins.

Can battery supply power to the electric motor that long?

If it can, I think TCH is the solution to my lifestyle.

Thanks.
The key difference is that you don't put the car in "N" when sitting in traffic; this disengages the generator. With the brake pedal pressed, the electric motors disengage - and you aren't using more power than the accessories consume (e.g. A/C, stereo, lights).

I've had occasion to sit in queue waiting to pick up my kids after an activity. Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes. Without the draw of the A/C, it likely would not have had to cycle.
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The TCH will start the engine using the traction battery by itself. You do not need to do anything other than get in, push the start button and go. If the traction battery starts to run a low state of charge, the engine will start and recharge the battery. I know the traffic that you are in having been thru Bangkok, Jakarta and Manila traffic over the years.

The Toyota system is ideal for the traffic patterns you will encounter (sitting for 30 minutes to move 100 meters) and with the increased cost of gas, you will be happy with it. If you do buy a TCH, let us know how you like it.
your sentence "sitting for 30 minutes to move 100 meters" proves that you really had been to BKK.

and of course, if i buy a TCH, i will definitely share my experience with you guys. (i think may be thai model is a bit differenct from that in US)

thank for your comments.
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The key difference is that you don't put the car in "N" when sitting in traffic; this disengages the generator. With the brake pedal pressed, the electric motors disengage - and you aren't using more power than the accessories consume (e.g. A/C, stereo, lights).

I've had occasion to sit in queue waiting to pick up my kids after an activity. Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes. Without the draw of the A/C, it likely would not have had to cycle.
This is what i am looking for.....

"Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes."

I think that would save me a lot. Since I sometimes have to park a car in "N" for 30-40 min during the rush hour.

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The key difference is that you don't put the car in "N" when sitting in traffic; this disengages the generator. With the brake pedal pressed, the electric motors disengage - and you aren't using more power than the accessories consume (e.g. A/C, stereo, lights).

I've had occasion to sit in queue waiting to pick up my kids after an activity. Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes. Without the draw of the A/C, it likely would not have had to cycle.
This is what i am looking for.....

"Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes."

I think that would save me a lot. Since I sometimes have to park a car in "N" for 30-40 min during the rush hour.

Thanks.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The key difference is that you don't put the car in "N" when sitting in traffic; this disengages the generator. With the brake pedal pressed, the electric motors disengage - and you aren't using more power than the accessories consume (e.g. A/C, stereo, lights).

I've had occasion to sit in queue waiting to pick up my kids after an activity. Over 20-30 minutes, with A/C on and stereo going, the ICE cycled on for about 5 minutes. Without the draw of the A/C, it likely would not have had to cycle.
Frodo65...when sitting in a "queue", did you have the TCH in "P"?
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The ICE would go on and off in P(ark) as sometimes I will sit in the TCH while my wife is in shopping and I want the AC and radio on, as it gets warm here in south Fl.
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