H vs V rated Michelin Primacy MVX4

[Dirtdragon747]

Can anyone give me their opinion on the H vs V rated Michelin Primacy MVX4. Is there any noticable difference in ride, handling, etc. The H are speed rated for 130mph & the V is rated at 149mph. Which would you go with & why? Thanks

[standonit]

Originally Posted by Dirtdragon747

Can anyone give me their opinion on the H vs V rated Michelin Primacy MVX4. Is there any noticable difference in ride, handling, etc. The H are speed rated for 130mph & the V is rated at 149mph. Which would you go with & why? Thanks

130mph is probably faster than I would drive a Camry Hybrid, so the "H" rated tire would be my choice.
However, the brakes, tires, and suspension of a Camry can be upgraded to offer increased safety at higher speeds.

[njerald]

Go to tirerack.com and compare..

Michelin Primacy MXV4 H rated - are cheaper, higher user rated, quieter, longer lasting and considerably less expensive....

[98CamryLE]

I have the Michelin Primacy MXV4s with an 'H' rating on my Camry Hybrid and they are great. I have had them on for about a year and a half and I have had no problems. They have a great ride, great traction, and they provide similar fuel economy to the OEM tires. I really recommend these tires.

[Dirtdragon747]

Originally Posted by 98CamryLE

I have the Michelin Primacy MXV4s with an 'H' rating on my Camry Hybrid and they are great. I have had them on for about a year and a half and I have had no problems. They have a great ride, great traction, and they provide similar fuel economy to the OEM tires. I really recommend these tires.

Thank you for the feed back, that is what I was looking for. Someone who has had them and happy with the overall performance. I did order a set from the Tire Rack and hope to gain a little more tire life than the original Energy's.

[VMAN2644]

I have the H rated michelins and they work great...They only last about 32000 miles on florida roads and heat. But Michelin gives you credit for not making the 65000 they are supposed to last. On my 2nd set

[Frodo65]

Originally Posted by standonit

130mph is probably faster than I would drive a Camry Hybrid, so the "H" rated tire would be my choice.
However, the brakes, tires, and suspension of a Camry can be upgraded to offer increased safety at higher speeds.

TCH has a 'hard' limit due to MG2 max speed - it speed is directly proportional to car speed. The governor is set to keep MG2 from grenading itself due to excessive RPM.

So, even if one figured out how to get power enough to exceed the 120 MPH or so governed top speed, the design of the transaxle is such that it would be a very short-lived experiment.

[GvilleTCH]

Originally Posted by Dirtdragon747

Can anyone give me their opinion on the H vs V rated Michelin Primacy MVX4. Is there any noticable difference in ride, handling, etc. The H are speed rated for 130mph & the V is rated at 149mph. Which would you go with & why? Thanks

I wasn't aware that Michelin made a V-rated Primacy MXV4. I know they make a Energy MXV4 S8 in both H-rated and V-rated.

FWIW : With 62,000+ miles on my original Michelin MXV4 S8 V's ; not needing to drive in snow ; not wanting a mileage reduction ; a rebate of $70 from TR and being very happy with them - I purchased another set of Energy MXV4 S8 V's which I will replace @ 65k+- ...

[kocho]

Originally Posted by njerald

Go to tirerack.com and compare..

Michelin Primacy MXV4 H rated - are cheaper, higher user rated, quieter, longer lasting and considerably less expensive....

Why would you (or anyone) say that an H-rated tire will be quieter? Or longer lasting? And in the case of the MXV4s (with the V-spec on sale) the cost difference right now is less than $8 per tire...

My understanding is that the V-rated tire is made of slightly softer compound (compared to same model H-rated) and thus I would expect the V to be quieter than the H. The H might last longer, although the question was for identically rated MXV4s so perhaps there are other changes too...

I am actually looking at exactly the same 2 tires and have not yet decided... There is so much disinformation and plain useless stuff on the Net it is hard to figure out what's what...

As to the *actual* difference b/w two tires that are rated otherwise identically and only differ in the speed rating (H vs. V) I still can't figure out for sure if one will be a softer and quieter ride or not, and which one it would be... Again, either one would work in terms of speed rating, the question is what are the other difference if all else is rated the same (same thread life, same traction, same load rating as in the 2 MXV4 tires in question).

So if anyone has an actual answer to the specific question, based on facts, I'm all ears

[kocho]

Well, I'm not going to know the answer on the question about H vs. V rating driving qualitites on a set of otherwise *identical* tires. However, I just checked my current all season tires on the '00 Camry (on 17" wheels). I know they are quieter and more comfortable riding than the previous tires I've had over the years on that and some other cars. Yet, they are probably the best performing than all my previous tires in terms of steering and traction in wet and dry. I wanted to see if they were H or V rated... And guess what - turns out they are "W" rated.

I then proceeded to see how much deflection there was on the sidewal compared to my other car sitting right next to the Camry. Very similar - if I push the wheel sideways with my foot I could not tell if one deflects more or less (similar tire pressure, a bit more on the other car but it has thinner and just a bit taller sidewall S-rated LRR tires that are terrible for turning as they feel squishy).

So sidewall stiffness seemed similar.

But when I tap on the tire sidewall, there is a huge difference - the W rated tire gives sort of dead deep "thunk" sound suggestive of substance and thickness. Where the other car's tire feels thinner and sounds like a much shallower and thin-walled object when tapped.

Basically, while the sidewall is indeed more substantial on the W tire compared to the, it does not feel more rigid. It will likely be stronger without being firmer...

So the speed rating appears to have no direct correlation with ride quality: the W rated tire is quieter and more forgiving of road imprefections than the S rated one in my case of 2 very different all-season tires.

[Warminwisco]

I went from a H Primacy to a V comfortred touring(goodyear) and the handling was crisper with no other penalties. If the car is rated for V buy V period. I have gone below the apeed rating on my Honda and took the tires back luckily to trade up.