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Saw some unofficial sales figures which indicate sales of the TCH have fallen from over 54,000 units in 2007 to less than 23,000 units in 2009. I didn't find any data for 2010.
I realize Toyota's overall sales have dipped (as have all car manufacturers' during the recession) but find the public's disdain for fuel efficient vehicles disturbing.
Fuel prices in the US are expected to spike up to $3.75/gallon by this spring. As for me, I'm ready to dump all use of fossil fuels and have:
Installed a geothermal heating/cooling system in the house
Have a Nissan all-electric LEAF on reservation
__________________ '10 TCH,Magnetic Grey Metallic, Moonroof, Heated Leather and NAV '92 LE I4, 165k original miles, Silver Taupe Metallic, Moonroof, ABS
TORRANCE, Calif. (December 1, 2010) – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported November sales of 129,317 units, a decrease of 7.3 percent from the same period last year, on a daily selling rate basis (DSR). On a raw volume basis, unadjusted for 24 selling days in November 2010, compared to 23 selling days in November 2009, TMS sales were down 3.2 percent compared to the same period last year.
Toyota Division recorded sales of 111,077 vehicles, a decrease of 7.6 percent from the year-ago month, on a DSR basis. On a raw volume basis, Toyota Division sales were down 3.6 percent from last November. Lexus Division reported sales of 18,240 units for the month, down 5.5 percent from November 2009, on a DSR basis. Volume-wise, Lexus Division sales were down 1.4 percent compared to the year-ago month.
Toyota Division
Toyota Division passenger cars recorded sales of 58,701 units, a decrease of 21.5 percent from last November. Toyota sales were led by Camry and Camry Hybrid, which posted combined monthly sales of 20,737 units. Corolla recorded sales of 16,202 units for the month. The Prius mid-size gas-electric hybrid reported sales of 10,224 units, up 1.9 percent over the year-ago month. Avalon posted sales of 2,186 units, up 7.8 percent over November 2009.
Toyota Division light trucks posted sales of 52,376 units in November, up 15.2 percent over the same period last year. Light truck sales were led by the RAV4 compact SUV, which recorded monthly sales of 12,306 units, up 2.4 percent over November 2009. Highlander and Highlander Hybrid posted combined sales of 9,156 units, up 41.2 percent over the year-ago month. 4Runner posted sales of 4,062 units for the month, up 130.5 percent over November 2009. The Tundra full-size pickup posted sales of 7,464 units, up 12.1 percent over last November. The Tacoma mid-size pickup recorded sales of 8,616 units, up 8.2 over the year-ago month. The Sienna minivan reported sales of 8,125, up 4.0 percent over the same period last year.
Scion posted November sales of 3,834 units. The all-new, redesigned tC sports coupe led the way with sales of 1,619 units, up 79.2 percent over last November. The xB posted November sales of 1,405 units. The xD reported sales of 810 units for the month.
Lexus Division
Lexus reported passenger car sales of 9,188 units, down 12.4 percent from the year-ago month. Lexus passenger car sales were led by the ES entry luxury sedan, which posted sales of 4,070 units. The IS line-up reported combined sales of 2,557 units. The LS and LS hybrid recorded a combined sales of 1,270 units, up 15.1 percent over last November.
Lexus light trucks recorded sales of 9,052 units, up 2.7 percent over last November. Lexus Division sales were led by the RX 350 and RX 450h, which reported combined November sales of 7,235 units, down 12.5 percent from the year-ago month. With November sales of 1,376 units, GX mid-size luxury utility vehicle posted a gain of 530 percent over the same period last year.
TMS Hybrids TMS posted November hybrid sales of 14,041, down 7.0 percent from the year-ago month. Toyota Division posted sales of 11,929 hybrids for the month. Lexus Division reported sales of 2,112 hybrids in November.
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TORRANCE, Calif. (Feb. 1, 2011) – Toyota Motor Sales (TMS), U.S.A., Inc., today reported January sales results of 115,856 units. With 24 selling days in January 2010 and 2011, sales were up 17.3% over the year-ago month on a daily selling rate (DSR) and unadjusted raw volume basis.
The Toyota Division posted January sales of 102,996 units, an increase of 23.7 percent over the same period last year. The Lexus Division reported sales of 12,860 units, a decrease of 17.1% from last January.
Toyota Division
Toyota Division passenger cars recorded sales of 56,270 units, up 14.7% over last January. Passenger car sales were led by Corolla with sales of 20,581 units for the month, up 20.2% over last January. Camry and Camry Hybrid posted combined January sales of 18,145 units, an increase of 14.9% year-over-year. The Prius mid-size gas-electric hybrid posted January sales of 10,635 units, up 25.4% over the year-ago month.
Toyota Division light trucks posted January sales of 46,726 units, an increase of 36.5% year-over-year. Light truck sales were led by the RAV4 compact SUV, which recorded monthly sales of 11,196, an increase of 41.8% over last January. Highlander and Highlander Hybrid posted combined sales of 7,507 units for the month, up 67.6% year-over-year. The 4Runner mid-size SUV reported sales of 3,829 units, an increase of 27.4% over the year-ago month. The Tacoma mid-size pickup posted sales of 7,140 units for the month, up 5.8% over last January. The Tundra full-size pickup posted sales of 6,087 units, up 55.9% over the year ago month.
"We are encouraged by last month’s results, which show continued strength in both the passenger and light truck segments,” said Bob Carter, Toyota Division group vice president and general manager, Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A. "Loyalty and conquest rates have returned to historical levels and we believe our ‘#1 for a Reason’ advertising campaign, launching this month, will help build on our early sales momentum.”
Scion posted January sales of 3,275 units, an increase of 7.9% year-over-year. The tC sports coupe led the way with sales of 1,351 units, up 57.5% over last January. The xB urban utility vehicle posted January sales of 1,298 units. The xD reported sales of 791 units for the month.
Lexus Division
Lexus reported passenger car sales of 5,561 units, down 30.6% over the year-ago month. The entry luxury sedan ES led Lexus passenger car sales with sales of 2,215 units. The IS luxury sports sedan reported combined sales of 1,992 units.
Lexus light trucks recorded sales of 7,299 units, down 2.7% from last January. Lexus light truck sales were led by the RX, which posted combined January sales of 5,881 units, up 3.4% over the year-ago month. The GX mid-size luxury utility vehicle reported sales of 1,135 units.
TMS Hybrids
TMS posted January sales of 13,409 hybrid vehicles. Toyota Division posted sales of 12,184 hybrids for the month. Lexus Division reported sales 1,225 hybrids in January.
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Fuel prices in the US are expected to spike up to $3.75/gallon by this spring. As for me, I'm ready to dump all use of fossil fuels and have:
Installed a geothermal heating/cooling system in the house
Have a Nissan all-electric LEAF on reservation
Nissan LEAF sounds good only if you don't have far to go and you have 7hrs @240v or 20 hrs @110v to wait for a charge depending on what charger voltage you use. Sure, you can do a 30 minute quick charge but that's using a 480v charger and it only gives an 80% charge. I would hate to get too far and there's no way to charge up, looks like you have to use a charging station. You would think they would have an on board charger with a retractable cord. I don't see this working or many sales unless they install charging stations all over the place and I don't see that happening do to low sales. And then they would have to charge you to charge up to help cover costs, electricity isn't free! I'll stick with a TCH, low sales or not.
Saw some unofficial sales figures which indicate sales of the TCH have fallen from over 54,000 units in 2007 to less than 23,000 units in 2009.
One dealer in our vicinity has 22 TCH's on its lot. They haven't moved one in some time as far as I can tell. I'm betting they're willing to deal. But I'm not ready to buy one yet.
Nissan LEAF sounds good only if you don't have far to go and you have 7hrs @240v or 20 hrs @110v to wait for a charge depending on what charger voltage you use.
Not quite true. Those are the charge times for a fully depleted battery. I only drive 10 miles per day so even the 120v overnight charge would replenish ALL of what I had used that day. If I opted for the 240v home charger I likely wouldn't even have to plug the car in every night. Perhaps an overnight charge 2-3 times a week would work.
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Sure, you can do a 30 minute quick charge but that's using a 480v charger and it only gives an 80% charge. I would hate to get too far and there's no way to charge up, looks like you have to use a charging station. You would think they would have an on board charger with a retractable cord. I don't see this working or many sales unless they install charging stations all over the place and I don't see that happening do to low sales. And then they would have to charge you to charge up to help cover costs, electricity isn't free! I'll stick with a TCH, low sales or not.
The LEAF's charging software allows you to choose between maximum range or maximum battery life (not-to-exceed 80% charge level) at the L1 (120v) or L2 (240v) rates.
The wife drives our TCH. I'll choose the LEAF for the in-town driving which I do 90% of the time.
__________________ '10 TCH,Magnetic Grey Metallic, Moonroof, Heated Leather and NAV '92 LE I4, 165k original miles, Silver Taupe Metallic, Moonroof, ABS
One dealer in our vicinity has 22 TCH's on its lot. They haven't moved one in some time as far as I can tell. I'm betting they're willing to deal. But I'm not ready to buy one yet.
I noticed none of my local dealers are moving them either, they still have the same White/Black TCH's in stock from months ago.
I think I want one... but I want it in Blue! Can I get the dealer to paint it for me, or do I have to order one from Toyota? In that case I'll probably lose any bargaining chips I can get if I have to order one. Ugh.
I've never done this before, I always end up getting ugly grey cars because that's what the dealer has. Anyone have any experience getting a specific color?
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Not quite true. Those are the charge times for a fully depleted battery. I only drive 10 miles per day so even the 120v overnight charge would replenish ALL of what I had used that day. If I opted for the 240v home charger I likely wouldn't even have to plug the car in every night. Perhaps an overnight charge 2-3 times a week would work.
The LEAF's charging software allows you to choose between maximum range or maximum battery life (not-to-exceed 80% charge level) at the L1 (120v) or L2 (240v) rates.
The wife drives our TCH. I'll choose the LEAF for the in-town driving which I do 90% of the time.
Of coarse if you only drive 10 miles a day it won't take 7 or 20 hours to top off the battery. 10 miles a day isn't a gallon a gas in most cars either, less than $3 of fuel in a standard car and even less than that with a Hybrid. Living and working in the city will be the only market for these all electric cars, should work out just fine for you. SO what does the charging stations cost for the house? And will you have to pay an electrician to install it?
As fuel prices start going up to $5 a gallon, the Hybrids will start selling again, time to buy now before demand goes up along with the prices.
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But I'm not ready to buy one yet.
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