Camry HybridDiscussion area for the Toyota Camry Hybrid. Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving Americas favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
My lease will be up on my '11 Camry SE in a year and a half and would love to see a hybrid se be an option.
I just like the sportier look, sport-tuned suspension and the good compromise between price and features.
In the likely event that the 2013 model doesn't bring a hybrid SE variant, I hope the LE gets the steering wheel mounted controls for audio/Bluetooth and the touchscreen display.
Defeats the purpose of a Hybrid no? In its current setup it's just not the right platform for a sport model. Especially since with the 6th gen SE (and even the Sienna SE), they made it clear they intend for the SE to be a true sport model with real performance enhancements.
The Camry HSD was designed for top MPG. If tuned for more performance like the Lexus GS450h was, MPG would be quite a bit less.
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2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid
2003 Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic
2002 Jaguar X-Type 2.5 AWD
Other than added weight, changes for a SE don't effect gas mileage. And if you argue added weight defeats the purpose then so does the XLE. SE is "sportier" due to visual styling and stiffer suspension.
The hybrid engine has better performance than the 4 banger so I'd argue that a hybrid SE is a better fit than an i4 SE.
Other than added weight, changes for a SE don't effect gas mileage. And if you argue added weight defeats the purpose then so does the XLE. SE is "sportier" due to visual styling and stiffer suspension.
The hybrid engine has better performance than the 4 banger so I'd argue that a hybrid SE is a better fit than an i4 SE.
And tires which have thick sidewalls and a stickier compound(there goes your milage) and manual transmission(not anymore, I know, but that kills the SE for me).
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Smooth driving is comfortable and easy. It is also FAST(though not comfortable at speed). I don't care if you apex corners(everyone does) on a public road unless you suck at it(everyone). Hold a proper line or get out of my way.
Toyota uses different tires on hybrid le and xle than on their non-hybrid counterparts. Why wouldn't they use hybrid tires on the hybrid SE?
That's not a valid reason against a hybrid SE IMO. All else fails, they could just use the same tires that are on the hybrid XLE. non-issue
Manuals in mainstream models are going away. That would be regardless of whether or not a hybrid SE is released. An issue I'm sure for those wanting manuals but not really pertinent to the hybrid se given that most (if not all) hybrids don't come with a manual transmission. maybe a good idea to have that as an option as it would be somewhat unique for hybrids.
Why wouldn't they use hybrid tires on the hybrid SE.
Because the tires put on the hybrids have a really hard compound that doesn't grip anything and high profile thin mushy sidewalls. So, it gets mushy in corners and has a low traction limit. Not very sporty.
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Smooth driving is comfortable and easy. It is also FAST(though not comfortable at speed). I don't care if you apex corners(everyone does) on a public road unless you suck at it(everyone). Hold a proper line or get out of my way.
You would be amazed at the difference they make. IDK about the new one but the last gen camry SE had the best handling of any midsized sedan.
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Smooth driving is comfortable and easy. It is also FAST(though not comfortable at speed). I don't care if you apex corners(everyone does) on a public road unless you suck at it(everyone). Hold a proper line or get out of my way.
It's not an issue to many of us here, but give this supposed Hybrid SE to the automotive press and they'd tear it apart. Nobody wants negative reviews to satisfy the wants of a few.
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2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid
2003 Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic
2002 Jaguar X-Type 2.5 AWD
how would it be any more negative than a review on the hybrid le or xle? The SE doesn't create any additional negatives so any negatives would already be out there in reviews.
Having a variety of camry is about options. I bet you there would be enough people interested in a hybrid se to warrant it as an option.
The le and xle are known to be comfortable soft riding cars(aka shit handling). the se on the other hand is supposed to be a sport model(anal in the case of the camry and sienna it is) so it is held to a higher standard.
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Smooth driving is comfortable and easy. It is also FAST(though not comfortable at speed). I don't care if you apex corners(everyone does) on a public road unless you suck at it(everyone). Hold a proper line or get out of my way.
how would it be any more negative than a review on the hybrid le or xle? The SE doesn't create any additional negatives.
Any negatives on the camry hybrid are already out there in reviews.
Having a variety of camry is about options. I bet you there would be enough people interested in a hybrid se to warrant it as an option.
If you've ever driven a Camry Hybrid, it's painfully obvious it wouldn't work in its current state. Steering is numb and dead. Acceleration response is pretty laggy. It would take quite a bit of retuning the whole vehicle overall to make it work. The SE and the Hybrid in their separate forms are great. But together you've got a huge case of confused identity. Camry just isn't the right car and doesn't have the right demographic to make it work.
But we'll see if it comes up in the long run. Who knows. What sport Hybrids there are already haven't been doing too well. Heard of the Honda CRZ?
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2011 Chrysler Town & Country Touring
2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid
2003 Yamaha V-Star 650 Classic
2002 Jaguar X-Type 2.5 AWD
heard of the crz but it looks just as bad as the prius and insight. ick CRZ is lacking across the board and was just a lame attempt at a sports hybrid.. highly doubt that is the best that there is to offer.
I haven't had a chance to test drive very many hybrids. In summer 2010 when I was in the market, they were either ugly or expensive.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic that a good hybrid can be made that handles decent.
If you guys prove to be right, then may be keeping my current car longer than anticipated while the car manufacturers figure it out.
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