"Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net> wrote in message
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>> > "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >> "Brad Taylor" <BradTaylor@ev1.net> wrote in message
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>> >> > Even so, my truck still complains at 30 mph. The steering is[/color][/color]
> snappish[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > and
>> >> > the groaning is unbearable.
>> >>
>> >> That's why you're not supposed to use it on dry pavement. :-) It's[/color][/color]
> also[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > the
>> >> reason why there are too many 4WD vehicles sold, without the customer
>> > being
>> >> informed of their limitations.
>> >>
>> > I don't. However, I was able to use it on my Jeep CJ-5 on wet
>> > pavement.
>> > It
>> > was great for traction. My Toyota won't even let me use 4x4 on wet
>> > pavement
>> > without griping.
>> >
>> >[/color]
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>> Are your tires much different than the ones on the Jeep? And, when you
>> say
>> "wet pavement", are you talking about driving on days when the road's
>> intermittently "just wet", but still icy in some areas?
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> Well, we rarely have ice here in Houston. When we do, I stay off the
> roads
> because nobody here knows how to drive on ice. When I say wet, I mean
> from
> damp to flooding, but not alternatively dry and wet. Even the Jeep would
> hop on dry paving. The tires I had on the Jeep were National 11x33/R15
> bias
> type tires and I have BFG 235/75R15 All Terrain's on the Toy. I've
> learned
> to live with the difference. When it was a rainy day, I would lock the
> hubs
> and drive all over the place in 4wl-hi at speeds up to 50. I never had a
> problem with gripe, but it was noisy. I could power around corners with
> no
> fear of do-nuting or sliding. On wet, rainy surfaces in the Toy, it's
> like
> wrestling a bear, even with power steering. The Jeep was a neat off road
> vehicle, but it was cramped and I couldn't haul anything with it. I had
> planned to buy a Scrambler, but I was disappointed with the build quality
> in
> 1984 and had to look elsewhere. I ended up on the Toy because of the
> quality of craftsmanship that I saw. The Nationals were very stable and
> greatly increased the handling and stopping safety of that extremely short
> wheel base CJ-5. In short, they were sticky tires on dry pavement, and
> therefore must have been sticky on wet. The only thing left is the
> difference in drive-line construction between the Jeep and the Toyota.
> Both
> vehicles were plain jane and no auto slippage devices. I don't know what
> the difference is, but I wish that could drive the Toy the same as the
> Jeep
> on wet surfaces. I'm preparing to do some major suspension changes and
> all
> the other linkage upgrades that go along with that and am wondering,
> myself,
> if there is a way to correct this problem.
>
> I also learned some time back, that the Mud-Terrain's were no good for
> that
> truck because there wasn't enough rubber meeting the road. The truck
> would
> fishtail violently when braking at freeway speeds. When I applied the
> All-Terrain's the handling improved tremendously. In fact, I don't
> experience any fishtail, unless the paving is worn and slick.
>
> Well there's my ten cents.
>
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Here's my ten cents: On wet roads (and I don't mean flooded, just wet),
there's no reason to be using 4WD. If your tires don't handle wet roads
nicely, you need better tires.
