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Old 10-22-2005, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation Difference Between Injen Intakes

What is the difference between the 97-99 Injen short ram with # INJ-IS2020P and 00-01 Injen intakes with # INJ-IS2022P? Are they interchangeable? The INJ-IS2020P is $155 and the 00-01 INJ-IS2022P is $204. Other than the price is there any difference? The intakes looks exactly the same.
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i think they both the same. either way there both usless when it comes to performance
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Not alone it won't be, but maybe with the rippmods manifold as well as exhaust it actually be slightly more powerful.
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i believe they are the same and the results in performance is crap. the only thing youll get out of that is a nice sound and thats about it.
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i have an exhaust and it sound s sweet but i wouldnt know about the headers cause i aint got headers i plan to get them though
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one of them has a heatshield. you'll notice a difference with the Rippmods headers and an aftermarket exhaust. but with the intake alone on a stock engine, that camry will lose 5mph as far as top end speed goes. i'm not sure about launching-wise.
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i can vouch for the power loss. i have an ebay one, and its the same as the injen. I have a k&n filter but you still lose power when the engine and outside temps are hot. I finally got back to co. and there is a difference when accelerating thanks to the colder and lighter air.
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Wow you guys are ignorant.

Randomman84, you get an ebay piece of crap and say that because you are a cheap hack, that the quality injen part is crap? You get what you pay for especially with car parts.

fox prime, how often do you cruise around at 140 mph? Who cares if you lose 5mph top speed, that won't even matter in a quarter mile race.

Do you guys know what a dyno is? FYI it measures a vehicles HP and torque, then prints it out on a graph. Here is a link to a dyno for a K&N short ram intake on a Matrix XRS

http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/69-8601.jpg

That is a 12 HP gain over stock.

Research and do things right, then give your opinion.

An injen intake is about as good as it gets, with K&N and AEM shortly behind it. Any e-bay intake is worthless.

Not only does the intake add power, it makes your engine rev faster and more quickly. It does this by simplifying the intake system and allowing more air into the engine.

A short ram intake keeps the filter in the engine bay, and tends to increase power in the low to mid range of RPMs. The SRI is safer because it stays in the engine bay, but will make afew less HP than the CAI.

A cold air intake reroutes the filter outside the engine bay, usually to the wheel well or front bumper. This allows colder air (it's hot in the engine bay) which has more oxygen in it and burns better than hot air, to be used by your motor. The long pipe also increases the pressure of the air flowing into your motor. This gives your car a big boost at high RPMs. The CAI is the best intake power wise, but if you drive through a big puddle and yoru filter becomes submerged you can suck water into your motor and ruin it.

Different engines respond differently to these mods, and high reving motors make the most gains. However any car will be improved noticably with a QUALITY aftermarket intake.
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^ I agree with some, but not all of what you said.

I have a K&N pod filter on the end of my stock air intake tube/afm. All i'll say is i GAIN power in cool weather...more torque and more top end power. I LOSE power in hot weather and when the car has been idling for ages in traffic.
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Wow you guys are ignorant.

Randomman84, you get an ebay piece of crap and say that because you are a cheap hack, that the quality injen part is crap? You get what you pay for especially with car parts.

fox prime, how often do you cruise around at 140 mph? Who cares if you lose 5mph top speed, that won't even matter in a quarter mile race.

Do you guys know what a dyno is? FYI it measures a vehicles HP and torque, then prints it out on a graph. Here is a link to a dyno for a K&N short ram intake on a Matrix XRS

http://www.kandn.com/dynocharts/69-8601.jpg

That is a 12 HP gain over stock.

Research and do things right, then give your opinion.

An injen intake is about as good as it gets, with K&N and AEM shortly behind it. Any e-bay intake is worthless.

Not only does the intake add power, it makes your engine rev faster and more quickly. It does this by simplifying the intake system and allowing more air into the engine.

A short ram intake keeps the filter in the engine bay, and tends to increase power in the low to mid range of RPMs. The SRI is safer because it stays in the engine bay, but will make afew less HP than the CAI.

A cold air intake reroutes the filter outside the engine bay, usually to the wheel well or front bumper. This allows colder air (it's hot in the engine bay) which has more oxygen in it and burns better than hot air, to be used by your motor. The long pipe also increases the pressure of the air flowing into your motor. This gives your car a big boost at high RPMs. The CAI is the best intake power wise, but if you drive through a big puddle and yoru filter becomes submerged you can suck water into your motor and ruin it.

Different engines respond differently to these mods, and high reving motors make the most gains. However any car will be improved noticably with a QUALITY aftermarket intake.

short rams tend to loss power becuase they just suck in hot air from the engine bay. that graph u put doesnt prove anything. do u know the tornado??? they showed graphs of power increase but in reality it doesnt help.

dont diss on Randomman84 for having a ebay intake becuase it is the same as any other short ram really. the diffrence is in the filter.
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short rams tend to loss power becuase they just suck in hot air from the engine bay. that graph u put doesnt prove anything. do u know the tornado??? they showed graphs of power increase but in reality it doesnt help.

dont diss on Randomman84 for having a ebay intake becuase it is the same as any other short ram really. the diffrence is in the filter.
the cheaper the filter the more power you get -- usually.

cheap K&N rip offs flow good, dry paper pods that look like K%N rip offs flow like shit.

cheap foam flows good until it gets dirty then it sucks.


and if youre reading this and ya about to knock me, read it again and make sure you understand what im saying.
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Old 10-23-2005, 11:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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the cheaper the filter the more power you get -- usually.

cheap K&N rip offs flow good, dry paper pods that look like K%N rip offs flow like shit.

cheap foam flows good until it gets dirty then it sucks.


and if youre reading this and ya about to knock me, read it again and make sure you understand what im saying.

knock u??na bro.... all i know is that the filter is what counts.
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Dude my friend is an aerospace engineer, I asked him and he said that the size of the tube, the location of the bends, and the placement of the MAF all dramatically affect how the engine will respond to it. That is why Injen/AEM/K&N have better intakes (and filters), they dyno the hell out of different prototypes until they find one with the best combination of bends/MAF placement/tube diameter/filter style.

And if a dyno sheet shows increases in torque and HP how could the vehicle go slower?

And even if the SRI only takes in "hot air", a lot of hot air is better than just a little bit of hot air. Also the surface area of the cone filter, versus the tiny hole in the end of the snorkel or airbox, will take in much more air.

Your logic is flawed, you don't know what you are taking about.
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Dude my friend is an aerospace engineer, I asked him and he said that the size of the tube, the location of the bends, and the placement of the MAF all dramatically affect how the engine will respond to it. That is why Injen/AEM/K&N have better intakes (and filters), they dyno the hell out of different prototypes until they find one with the best combination of bends/MAF placement/tube diameter/filter style.

And if a dyno sheet shows increases in torque and HP how could the vehicle go slower?

And even if the SRI only takes in "hot air", a lot of hot air is better than just a little bit of hot air. Also the surface area of the cone filter, versus the tiny hole in the end of the snorkel or airbox, will take in much more air.

Your logic is flawed, you don't know what you are taking about.
that may only count with a cai becuase its longer and has more curvers. a regular intake is short and usally has only 1 curve.

U dont know what ur talking about.

the beds and stuff really really counts with a exhaust system becuase its very long and the striaghter it is the eaisier it is for the car to breathe.
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Dude my friend is an aerospace engineer, I asked him and he said that the size of the tube, the location of the bends, and the placement of the MAF all dramatically affect how the engine will respond to it. That is why Injen/AEM/K&N have better intakes (and filters), they dyno the hell out of different prototypes until they find one with the best combination of bends/MAF placement/tube diameter/filter style.

And if a dyno sheet shows increases in torque and HP how could the vehicle go slower?

And even if the SRI only takes in "hot air", a lot of hot air is better than just a little bit of hot air. Also the surface area of the cone filter, versus the tiny hole in the end of the snorkel or airbox, will take in much more air.

Your logic is flawed, you don't know what you are taking about.
FOR THE THIRD TIME, lets get some CAMRY real world results here.

and IF the DID put that much time and money into designing the intake, then why isnt it a cold air intake? All they do is rework the connectors, and a bend or two to make it fit, then sell it to the masses to waste their money. its not like they use different filter sfor different engines, no, thats a universal item. so all the rubber and other hosing, what and you say then spend countless hours to bend a steel pipe? yeah right.

remember, there is NO POINT AT ALL to outflow the standard camry intake plenum (and the miniscule amount of flow that the engine actually uses), which i should say, are piss poor (the plenum) and even a gradeschooler with cardboard, tape and toilet rolls could design a better one.

now if anyone can do a controlled back to back test ON A CAMRY of various (lets say THREE) different filter systems and actually have any gains worth writing home about, I'll pay you (via paypal). and if you plan on doing it on a dyno, then i want video footage, because its useless to just show us a pictur eof a dyno sheet, as ive mention already.
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