How much does KYB struts and maybe some Eibach springs change the handling? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

blueapple · 10-31-2005, 03:54 PM

I'm always an admirer of the Camry engineering ( Dual balancing shafts, knock sensor.. subframe.., S51 transmissoin, which is much more durable than the corollas ), and thinking about getting one to help me through college commute, but every time I got a chance to drive it, it makes me change my mind. It's just not as sharp as I hope it could be, ( and I'm not asking much for a commuter, nothing like MR2 or anything.... )

Some friend told me that the after market (KYB and such) struts improve the handling somewhat, and maybe stiffer springs would do some good too. But, by how much?

Share some experience?

thank you!

parttrade · 10-31-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by blueapple

I'm always an admirer of the Camry engineering ( Dual balancing shafts, knock sensor.. subframe.., S51 transmissoin, which is much more durable than the corollas ), and thinking about getting one to help me through college commute, but every time I got a chance to drive it, it makes me change my mind. It's just not as sharp as I hope it could be, ( and I'm not asking much for a commuter, nothing like MR2 or anything.... )

Some friend told me that the after market (KYB and such) struts improve the handling somewhat, and maybe stiffer springs would do some good too. But, by how much?

Share some experience?

thank you!

parttrade · 10-31-2005, 04:11 PM

Go to www.parttrade.com and see if you can locate these parts. Then ask for price.

RedPhoenix · 10-31-2005, 04:31 PM

I went with KYB + Eibach. Im very happy with it, handles well, not too stiff. do some searching on it too

CamNub · 10-31-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blueapple

Some friend told me that the after market (KYB and such) struts improve the handling somewhat, and maybe stiffer springs would do some good too. But, by how much?

Share some experience?

thank you!

It changes your suspension by 5.

Look at the camry FAQ. It talks about different kinds of springs and how they are.
The arguably best combo would be a Eibach//Tockiko setup but that costs a lot.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 10-31-2005, 10:25 PM

a lot

hclee25 · 11-01-2005, 06:48 AM

tokico, vogtland, whiteline RSW, make me drive a totally differet car.

In my opinion, the struts do most of the work, performance wise. Springs just give the high.
Correct me if I'm wrong

amerikim · 11-01-2005, 08:51 AM

I will vote the Whiteline rear antisway bar as making the car handle a lot better.

CamryEvolution · 12-10-2005, 12:57 AM

Hey guys,
I drive a 2002 Camry LE, everything is stock. I have a system in the trunk, which "lowers" the rear of the car, so now that the car height is about even between the front and the rear. I want to improve the handling of my camry while maintaining the smooth ride comfort, but since the system already pushes the rear lower, perhaps meaning a more firm rear end, do you guys think I should still install eibach springs and trd RSB for the back? I hope I did not confuse anybody, and I appreciate all comments and suggestions.

Thanks

***Eye8Pussies*** · 12-10-2005, 01:42 AM

if you have a heavy system, then your best bet would be to make sure you get some aftermarket struts as well, or else after just lowering with springs, you may bottom out your suspension when bouncing around

and as well, if you have a heavy system, I wouldn't recommend getting eibachs, or else your rear will be noticeable lower than the front, purely because hte eibachs don't drop your car that much- you'd probably be better off with h&rs or something, where at least the front is lower and the rear may tuck a bit with a system

for the gen3s, if we have a v6, we have the option of getting 4banger springs to lower the front more, but with teh gen4 4s, there is no such option

and if you want to keep the smooth ride comfort, then you really can't think about lowering your car at all

ECale3 · 12-10-2005, 03:48 AM

i can handle roads at sixty that i was uncomfortable cruising at 45 before my suspension upgrade.

CamryEvolution · 12-11-2005, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

if you have a heavy system, then your best bet would be to make sure you get some aftermarket struts as well, or else after just lowering with springs, you may bottom out your suspension when bouncing around

and as well, if you have a heavy system, I wouldn't recommend getting eibachs, or else your rear will be noticeable lower than the front, purely because hte eibachs don't drop your car that much- you'd probably be better off with h&rs or something, where at least the front is lower and the rear may tuck a bit with a system

for the gen3s, if we have a v6, we have the option of getting 4banger springs to lower the front more, but with teh gen4 4s, there is no such option

and if you want to keep the smooth ride comfort, then you really can't think about lowering your car at all

well I'm getting some 17" rims this x-mas, so what's your opinion on me gettin Eibach springs but only install the the front set and leave the rear stock? I figured perhaps that way, I can close the fender gap in the front while still maintaining decent ride quality. Or do you still recommend H&R Sport? Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.

ptycamry · 12-11-2005, 12:42 PM

I have H&R Sport Springs in my Camry and it's lower in the front than in the back if that's what you're looking for...

Ride quality is excellent... I'm planning to buy KYB GR-2's to replace my stock struts...

***Eye8Pussies*** · 12-11-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CamryEvolution

well I'm getting some 17" rims this x-mas, so what's your opinion on me gettin Eibach springs but only install the the front set and leave the rear stock? I figured perhaps that way, I can close the fender gap in the front while still maintaining decent ride quality. Or do you still recommend H&R Sport? Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.

I would say to get the h&r springs then....as ptycamry says...the front is pretty low, so then your system will lift the front and drop the back a bit and make ie even out

h&r quality isn't as good as eibach, but bette rthan intrax, and the good part is that they're cheaper than eibachs as well

and I would never recommend just putting lowering springs in the front
between the ride height difference, but more problematic- the spring rate difference, it will mess up the handling characteristics of your car, especially when turning at high speeds- if you hit a bump while doing so, you'll feel as though your car can handle it because your turning wheels will be flat on the ground, but your rears will bounce and loose traction and you'll lose your ass and spin out

CamryEvolution · 12-11-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eye8Pussies

I would say to get the h&r springs then....as ptycamry says...the front is pretty low, so then your system will lift the front and drop the back a bit and make ie even out

h&r quality isn't as good as eibach, but bette rthan intrax, and the good part is that they're cheaper than eibachs as well

and I would never recommend just putting lowering springs in the front
between the ride height difference, but more problematic- the spring rate difference, it will mess up the handling characteristics of your car, especially when turning at high speeds- if you hit a bump while doing so, you'll feel as though your car can handle it because your turning wheels will be flat on the ground, but your rears will bounce and loose traction and you'll lose your ass and spin out

thanx for the word of precaution. i guess for right now, im going to go with h&r sport. i know that different people have different judgements on their ride quality, so lets just say i hope i will feel that the ride quality will be excellent as well.