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Old 11-24-2005, 09:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation No Brakes I Need Help

so yeah today i did the rear disc conversion and after its all done i have no brakes i bled the system all the way through and i get nothing its spraying fluid out of the bleeders but i get nothing at the pedal i need help i work at 3 am any input is apreciated HELP!!!
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I assume you got these brakes off a V6 camry?, Did you do a
"one man brake bleed"? in that case youre prone to get air in
the system, but if the brakes you got where defect you still
should have working front brakes, if you told us how you
bleed the system that would help a lot.
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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so is it that none of your brakes work at all, or just your rear brakes don't work?

have you checked the master cylinder to see if there's enough pressure to adequately power 4 disc brakes?
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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it was a 4 man and a girl bleed all of us did it but my mechanic took alook at it and said that its probally the seals on the mater that went bad cuase they get pressure but you have to pump it all the calipers and lines are all new i reused the hubs and i just got the backing plates offa the camry at the junk yard, the reason i did it was cause i was getting about half pressure before and i thought the cause was my drums in the back but im gonna replace the master tomorrow and see what i yeild, but for tonight and work work tomorrow im rolling my moms suv, it has a full tank and hell if im bringing it back filled
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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even if the master cylinder was the problem, like others said, you should still have front brakes. All master cylinders on the market today are dual master cylinders, which means the front brakes are seperate then the rear. if you have a leak in the front system, your rears will still, work. Same if the rear had a leak, the front would still work. I think your master cylinder is fine, I think it is a different problem. Usually a bad master cylinder is associated with a pedal that sinks to the floor and comes back up.

Now did you make sure everything was hooked up properly?

Also how did you bleed the brakes? I have seen so many problems associated with improper bleeding of the brakes?

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Old 11-25-2005, 11:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Do you have an ABS pressure equalizer pump?
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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dosnet seem to of have been hooked up wrong and we bled them a few times and still nothing the pedal does sink to the floor and come back up so im thinking its the master


there is no abs on the car
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Does the Brake Pedal have and adjustmet somewere where you can adjust the pedal hight.
Maybe the pedal is kind of low and the the presure at its current hight is not sufficient.

Im no expert though.

(thats a clutch from MX6)
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nah the free play is fine there is none basicly just a lil click that the brake light switch just got pressed and thats all
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Dual cylinder does not mean that you get front brakes all the time.

It is a Dual circuit to give you diagonal front and back (one front and opposite rear) braking if one leaks. You have a brake proportioning valve to limit the rear brake pressure, no matter which side is active.

When I replaced a rear passenger drum cylinder (on a corrolla) this summer, the bleeding took a long long time. Try again.
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Old 11-26-2005, 05:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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well yeah i took it out tonight in the snow and i was messing with it looks like the brakes work just fine for some reason i let it sit for about a day and they seem fine im quite releived actually not sure why they did that buy im gonna do another bleeding session a few days ill take it over to tires plus and use the lifts and all the brake fluid i can ever fathom!
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Perhaps a bit of dirt in the lines? Wouldnt be a crimp or it wouldnt start working again. Maybe a air bubble has slowly worked its way up into the mc and bled off? Not likely but? I wouldnt trust it though until I found out what caused it in the first place! MAYBE THE CAR JUST HATES YOU! Dont laugh. Sometimes its the only explaination! Like when you have a car that wont run reliably for you and you give it away and the new owner just drives it away! lol
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Old 11-30-2005, 02:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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my car loves me, starts right up even after i leave the ligths on all night and the musicg going for 8+ hours in the woods, it freaking loves me!!! lol it loved me more than my fiance does and i love the car more than i love her. (but dont tell her). any way the car is running fine now i got it over to a hoist had her up all 4 wheels off and used a professional vaccum bleeder and constantly fed it brake fluid for about 15 min and shes running like a dream right now and its very happy.
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