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Old 12-25-2005, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need Help??? cai/short ram

well with having some extra money form christmas i was looking to get a cold air intake or a short ram....anyone have any suggestions for ones that really fit nicely....i have a 92 camry 4 door i4...any help is great....thanks in adavnce
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nobody makes cold air intakes for the camrys, what you have to do is get a umm..short ram, get one off ebay, they're the cheap ones (they work but not as good as the brand names one) but that little bit of difference doesn't matter. so ebay, search ur car and get the cheap ones
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have a generic civic intake fliped backwards turned upside down(got it for free), with a cone filter from autozone.. it works fine... there realy isnt much of a difrence when it comes to intakes as long as u get rid of that big restrictive box

name brand intakes are a waste of money... they all do the same thing with the same performance
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a generic civic intake fliped backwards turned upside down(got it for free), with a cone filter from autozone.. it works fine... there realy isnt much of a difrence when it comes to intakes as long as u get rid of that big restrictive box

name brand intakes are a waste of money... they all do the same thing with the same performance
I totally disagree. A well-built CAI like an AEM unti will benefit you much more than some generic eBay short-ram intake. A CAI is much more effective than a SRI. And then one that is mandrel bent (for smooth air flow), the correct size so that it does not slow down air velocity but still allows higher aiflowwill definitely be better than some eBay intake.

Unfortunately no company makes a CAI for the 5sfe right now, but i have a feeling that is going to change
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CAI are useless. Don't get one. They don't gain shit.
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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CAI are useless. Don't get one. They don't gain shit.

That is an untrue statement. CAIs have been proven time and time again through Dynos that when well-made they produce power. On stock motors they usually make 3-5whp and 5-8ft-lb of tq. And CAIs aren't eevn performing at their best on the Dyno since they do not have a true flow of cold air standing still so during actual driving you can expect 1-2whp more. An thats on stock motors. The second link I posted shows what just a CAI does on a motor that is tuned. The AEM CAI versus another brand produced 10whp more than the other CAI. Examples can be found everywhere of Dynos that prove that CAIs do work. Companies like AEM, Injen & Hotshot have done their research and they wouldn't be selling CAIs in the quantity they are if they did not work.

+4whp & +7ft-lb of tq
Difference between CAIs (AEM making 10whp more)
8whp & 4whp peak
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i agree with luisitol, if they did not work, people would stop buying them for their serious cars. Cheap ricers of course will buy anything that looks or sounds cool....

Also, weapon r makes custom intakes for pretty reasonable prices so you can also look into that.

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Old 12-26-2005, 04:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have a CAI in my Camry. It improve on my 1/4 mile time by .8. Im looking forward on selling it. Its a 2 1/2 piping, and it is for a 4 cyl. Pm me if interested.
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Old 12-26-2005, 04:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a CAI in my Camry. It improve on my 1/4 mile time by .8. Im looking forward on selling it. Its a 2 1/2 piping, and it is for a 4 cyl. Pm me if interested.
You made one yourself? Nice
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I have a CAI in my Camry. It improve on my 1/4 mile time by .8. Im looking forward on selling it. Its a 2 1/2 piping, and it is for a 4 cyl. Pm me if interested.




I have a cai as well, so I'm no hating, but no way can a cai help you shave .8sec off your 1/4 mile, and especially not with a 4banger

and as luistol said though- when TUNED, a cai can help, along with other supporting mods

personally, I "felt" higher rpm power quite definately, and quicker response
mine is 3" or 2.75" mandrel bent custom made by ELprototypes
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yeah i think that SRIs/CAIs WILL help on the very high end where HP is calculated. but only CAIs will help in the lower and mid.
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^Haha, you got it the other way around, Viet. SRI's help on the low end more than CAI's do because you get air faster with an SRI. But at higher RPMs, when the engine air is hotter, the SRI is worse than a CAI.
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^Haha, you got it the other way around, Viet. SRI's help on the low end more than CAI's do because you get air faster with an SRI. But at higher RPMs, when the engine air is hotter, the SRI is worse than a CAI.
ohhh that makes more sense now. right on
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I have a cai as well, so I'm no hating, but no way can a cai help you shave .8sec off your 1/4 mile, and especially not with a 4banger

and as luistol said though- when TUNED, a cai can help, along with other supporting mods

personally, I "felt" higher rpm power quite definately, and quicker response
mine is 3" or 2.75" mandrel bent custom made by ELprototypes
That is the key. CAI are so worthless its not even funny. Even if it actually did improve performance its like 150 bucks for like 3hp.....

The only plus you can give a CAI is that it sounds "cool." Which actually many people find annoying. The honestly only reason I think these things sell is because you got all these kids running around saying I'm no ricer. I have performance. Boo hoo hoo, your CAI sucks.
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That is the key. CAI are so worthless its not even funny. Even if it actually did improve performance its like 150 bucks for like 3hp.....

The only plus you can give a CAI is that it sounds "cool." Which actually many people find annoying. The honestly only reason I think these things sell is because you got all these kids running around saying I'm no ricer. I have performance. Boo hoo hoo, your CAI sucks.
lets see 5whp for say $150. Thats $30 per whp. Ask anyone, $30 per whp is an awesome price to hp ratio. IF you could continue that ratio into the higher hp that means that with $3,000 you could add 100whp. So how do you figure that the $150 isn't worth it?

I can understand if you having a thing against CAIs but saying that they are useless is a bias and untrue statement.
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