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Old 01-14-2006, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation help!

hey guys... i'm new to this thread... been searching for hours and still couldn't find anything that would really help me in making up my mind...
i have a 98 camry v6, 5 spd manual... and i'm looking for an intake... (do they really help the performance?!) i've been searching the net for more than a week now, and didnt come across a thread that would really help me make a decision...

is weapon r secret air intake any better than the dragon short ram? i'm not willing to spend any more than $150 right now... so, what kinda intake would ya'll recommend?

every encouraging input will be greatly appreciated!
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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WELCOME!

No, intakes do not help much, especially in the camry. They make it sound better, and thats all it really does. And it gives you something to do and to show off i guess.

Just a note on short ram intakes...aka HOT air intakes. Right now your car is set up with a sort of cold air intake, but its more restrictive. I say go get a cold air intake that sucks air from inside your driver fender and forget the short ram. I've installed a short ram in my car and it sounds better but performance i have to say went down.

I say get a performance drop in filter for your current stock intake
and remove the resonator from the driverside fender/wheel well. You will get more power that way, and a slightly louder roar.

Plus that will only set you back 40-60 dollars.
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hey thanks nodrogkam... so right now all i need to do is get the resonator out and that would give me more power? my cousing has a mazda 6 and he did the same thing... and i dont think it helped him a bit in performance but had definitely a louder roar...
so... what kinda drop in air filter would ya'll recommend? and is it easy to make my own cai?
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No, intakes do not help much, especially in the camry. They make it sound better, and thats all it really does. And it gives you something to do and to show off i guess.

Just a note on short ram intakes...aka HOT air intakes. Right now your car is set up with a sort of cold air intake, but its more restrictive. I say go get a cold air intake that sucks air from inside your driver fender and forget the short ram. I've installed a short ram in my car and it sounds better but performance i have to say went down.

I say get a performance drop in filter for your current stock intake
and remove the resonator from the driverside fender/wheel well. You will get more power that way, and a slightly louder roar.

Plus that will only set you back 40-60 dollars.
You have a big misconeception of what SRI's vs. CAI's do. The fact that you're sucking in hotter air than a CAI isn't going to affect you at all unless you're driving the car like you stole it. If you're hitting 5000RPMs at every green light, then yes, your engine will heat up to the point where you lose performance from the SRI. Otherwise, there is absolutely no decrease in power from using the hotter air. I drove from LA to San Diego and back once after I put in my SRI (constant at around 3000RPM), and when I got off the freeway back in LA, I had no loss of performance.

An SRI will help on the lower end of performance. With a shorter pipe, and a high-flow filter, you get air faster to the throttle body, thus reducing throttle lag, and, theoretically, increasing acceleration rate. With a CAI, you get better performance on the high end RPMs because thats when the engine REALLY heats up. For a daily driver, he should get an SRI, otherwise, he'll lose performance on the low end from having to suck in air through a longer pipe.
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Well it does give your car more power in that the air resistance is less, but if your asking me if you're going to feel it or not, you probably wont. I felt a slight increase on days when it was colder, but what we feel changes every day.

THere is a thread earlier about removing resonator and some sort of wierd thing this member did that seems to work for him.

Drop in performance filters....almost all are the same. I had an AMSOil one because i know someone who is a distributor, and apart from it being bulky and hard to install it is really good and keeps the engine clean. You can always go for K&N or TRD. Just try to find the best price.

You have to custom make your own CAI...so unless you have the metal shop skills i wouldnt recommend it. You can ask around as people are selling some. I Private Message Calvin237 and ask him if he can hook you up. I might convert to one later on.

I currently have an SRI from ebay, and so do a few other members on this board. It isnt half bad for the price, but i notice a sort of performance drop. It could just be the lower quality filter they included.
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You have a big misconeception of what SRI's vs. CAI's do. The fact that you're sucking in hotter air than a CAI isn't going to affect you at all unless you're driving the car like you stole it. If you're hitting 5000RPMs at every green light, then yes, your engine will heat up to the point where you lose performance from the SRI. Otherwise, there is absolutely no decrease in power from using the hotter air. I drove from LA to San Diego and back once after I put in my SRI (constant at around 3000RPM), and when I got off the freeway back in LA, I had no loss of performance.

An SRI will help on the lower end of performance. With a shorter pipe, and a high-flow filter, you get air faster to the throttle body, thus reducing throttle lag, and, theoretically, increasing acceleration rate. With a CAI, you get better performance on the high end RPMs because thats when the engine REALLY heats up. For a daily driver, he should get an SRI, otherwise, he'll lose performance on the low end from having to suck in air through a longer pipe.
I dont know about you or gen 5's but after a normal drive, i open my hood and whoosh of hot air comes out at me....

The fact that most SRI's, especially mine which hangs right over the tranny and next to the engine block, rather than closer to the fender causes it to suck in a TON of hot air. This WILL affect performance because i know that the stock intake took in colder air.

If i switched over to a K&N long style filter it might help...but there is a reason why a lot of people switch over to cai.
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^Like I said, there's a slight gain in performance at higher RPMs. Most people that use CAIs are usually using them on track cars, cars that they use in street races, and cars that people drive like they stole them. If you're driving around at high ass RPMs all the time, you'll lose power on the SRI. If you drive normally, like most people should on the streets, the SRI is better for performance, even though the only gain is throttle response. Also, CAIs are worse on gas milage.
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Well i can certainly agree with you on the low/high rpm thing and even the brand name. I'm willing to bet that at the very least, injen has better seals and filters. If i get some more cash i will try K&N or AMSOil to see if that makes any difference. But for sure i dont feel the car pull when i drive like i stole it.
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the best filters you can probably get for a toyota would be the paper TRD ones.

sure theres more pressure drop then a cotton gauze filter but theres 60% less junk getting though it =)
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so, what's the bottom line? i'm still gettin mixed suggestions... i still dunno whether i should get an intake or not...
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When i put on my SRI i noticed a definate difference in throttle response. I would do it again.
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so i should get it?! is it worth spending $125 on it?
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^I spent $220 on it, and I'd probably do it again.
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^I spent $220 on it, and I'd probably do it again.

thanks whit3ch0c0late... imma get one today or tomorrow... but should i get a dragon air intake... a secret weapon intake... or some other ram air intake?
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