1MZ-FE V6 intake preferences? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

1MZ-FExle.s · 12-30-2002, 02:16 AM

i have a 01 v6 camry and im about to buy an intake. can you tn guys/gals help me decide? my choices are weapon*r dragon, rs akimoto, injen, aem, or k&N. i kno there are a lot of 1MZ-FE owners with intakes out there so if you can give me some advice i would REALLY appreciate it. thanks :wink:

Luc · 12-30-2002, 11:39 AM

Stick with OEM, none of the ones you mentioned offers a cold air intake (without extra modification), and will suck in more hot air from the engine compartment. Unless you plan on driving at above 5k rpm all the time, you won't see any noticeable gain. Granted, the OEM inlet is rather restrictive, but the stock airbox does serve as a heat shield. My $0.02.

Luc

***Phi*** · 12-30-2002, 01:41 PM

I'll have to agree with Luc ( rarely otherwise :wink: )

Another consideration is the legalities. Pigs up here in T.O. have been known to harrass ppl with intakes and slapping them with a hefty environmental violation ticket. There are ways to fight it in court, but do you really want the hassle if it doesn't even improve performance?

I've got a TRD/K&N drop-in myself.

1MZ-FExle.s · 12-30-2002, 05:22 PM

say it ain't so...say it ain't so. you guys can't be serious! you mean to tell

me intakes are useless? i get the hot air part, but what if i get the "ram air

kit" that enhances the weapon r dragon intake? you can place the ram air

thingy behind the grill or the radiator opening. will this help at all? thanks

tn-ers

lonis · 12-30-2002, 05:52 PM

I would go with Injen personally, just a nice intake, and seems to work really well.

Luc · 12-30-2002, 08:05 PM

We're not saying it's completely useless, just saying that it is typically useless until you get to higher rpms, where your engine needs more air, and an open air element helps with that. The problem is directing the cold air, and when it gets mixed with hot air from the engine, there's no significant change compared to stock airbox. You can definitely build some sort of passage to take in air behind the grill, but you will need to take out the stock air inlet and collector box in order to do that. When and if you get to that part, might as well try and build a cold air intake, yet you will still one of those intake pipes with the MAF adapter.

Luc

MCX20-XLS · 12-30-2002, 09:15 PM

cop in TO are giving people fines for having intakes ? enviormental violation ? how ?

1MZ-FExle.s · 12-30-2002, 09:50 PM

ah well. too late. i just got a weapon r dragon intake for $135. at first i

thought it was the best deal, but now i guess its alright. im about to get the

ram air kit. hopefully it will help with the throttle response.

wontonjohnny · 12-30-2002, 11:49 PM

what ???? why dont your guys think intakes work??? i can tell you mine works awsome. Do you guys know about the ACIS on V6 cam. yeah before putting in an intake i couldnt feel a difference at 4000 rpm. Now after making my own CAI it pulls like a bitch at the switch. (similar to VTEC).
and yeah dont you guys pick up those tuner mags?? they do project cars and dyno them on the spot with bolt ons like intake, headers, exhast, stuff like that and they do notice gains on paper and those are usually on tiny I4's

Warped · 12-30-2002, 11:58 PM

For a daily driver that doesn't see high RPM's that often, sometimes sacrificing torque for high-end power just isn't worth it.

Luc · 12-30-2002, 11:59 PM

Please read carefully to what I wrote, I said an open air element will not work effectively until higher RPMs. You built a CAI, that's different than the ones offered by the companies listed. It's great you felt the gains. The gains on the I4s are typically more because the OEM parts used are more restrictive compared to V6s. And of course, the tuner magazines are never prejudiced towards H&As...

Luc

***Phi*** · 12-31-2002, 12:01 AM

wonton, those results you see in mags are under controlled environments. The hood is open, with a fan blowing cool air into the intake. Not only that, but ask yourself how reliable that info really is, considering the magazine relies on advertising from intake makers to keep them afloat (yeah, I'm a skeptic) The reality is, unless you spend the time to make a proper CAI and drive at high speeds most of the time, you prolly won't get that much improvement. Sure, it'll "sound" more powerful. For some strange reason, the human mind has a strange way of equating loudness with power (studies have been done) I'm not doubting that you got results, but most ppl will be dissappointed due to false expectations.

***EKam*** · 12-31-2002, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wontonjohnny

they do project cars and dyno them on the spot with bolt ons like intake, headers, exhast, stuff like that and they do notice gains on paper and those are usually on tiny I4's

You'll be suprised how much car companies pay those magazines for their honest advertising.

Plus the real benefit of a true CAI can't be shown thru dyno anyway.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 12-31-2002, 12:06 AM

yeah, just as phi and dickson were saying.......it's all mostly in your head....ehar the scream? must be goin' faster w/ more power....tru? unfortunately, no...

and the v6's pull pretty hard at around 4k rpm anyway man.....don't know about your car......

***Phi*** · 12-31-2002, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SR20 Infiniti

cop in TO are giving people fines for having intakes ? enviormental violation ? how ?

Because they are a$$holes and can! The majority of aftermkt products are "for off road use only" I've witnessed it myself with a friend of mine. It was a $300 ticket :o The cops explanation was that it comprimised emissions controls on the vehicle and violated the environmental laws or some BS like that. Like I mentioned, you can easily fight it in court and win, but it's a hassle.