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Where is the govenor located on my 91 Camry? Some say its in the transmission, others say its in the engine. I have gone through my engine manual quite a few times and have never come across a govonor. Thanks.
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I got an 88 3SFE and i've gotten it up to over 120, when does the governor kick in? or cud it be that I dont have one since i got an 88?
I've never heard of anyone hitting the govenor on the 3s-fe. I personally don't think Toyota bothered to put one in because the car doesn't have enough power to go very fast (the fastest I have gone in mine is 115, but I could probably do just over 120). If there is a govenor, what is it set at?
-Charlie
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the govenor is set to kick in once you max out 4th gear with an automatic or 5th with a manual without redlining. once u do that the govenor kicks in and drops the rpms and prevents futher acceleration when this happens u reamin at the speed + or - 5 mph from where it kicked in. the speed varies depending on the condition of the engine and trans and the weather outside. i heard of speeds between 87mph to 123mph where it kicked in.
did anyone else try and notice this effect. if there was no govenor u would be able to redline the car once u max out the trans.
i've reached speeds of 146 with my 89 camry le with redlining it at 6500 rpms, but i have a custom 5 speed automatic and an import stock 3sfe from japan. so i have no govenor in effect either way.
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i've reached speeds of 146 with my 89 camry le with redlining it at 6500 rpms, but i have a custom 5 speed automatic and an import stock 3sfe from japan. so i have no govenor in effect either way.
I have to call BS on this... unless you have done something else other than just the trans. There is no way a near-stock 3s-fe could push the bad aerodynamics of the 2nd gen camry that fast... If you have done other stuff to make it faster, I would like to hear it. 8)
-Charlie
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2003 Impreza WRX Wagon 5spd - 2.2L stroker + other goodies
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd - SV25/ST205 hybrid
1990 Camry 3S-GTE 5spd - parted out / junked
1990 Camry DX 3S-FE 5spd - The original white90dx; gone but not forgotten
i've reached speeds of 146 with my 89 camry le with redlining it at 6500 rpms, but i have a custom 5 speed automatic and an import stock 3sfe from japan. so i have no govenor in effect either way.
How did u get a custom 5 speed automatic? how much did it cost? i'd like to hear how u did that cuz that sounds like a good project for me.
i've reached speeds of 146 with my 89 camry le with redlining it at 6500 rpms, but i have a custom 5 speed automatic and an import stock 3sfe from japan. so i have no govenor in effect either way.
I have to call BS on this... unless you have done something else other than just the trans. There is no way a near-stock 3s-fe could push the bad aerodynamics of the 2nd gen camry that fast... If you have done other stuff to make it faster, I would like to hear it. 8)
-Charlie
I gotta agree with cahrlie on this one....the gen2's aerodynamics are pretty bad...and the 3sfe doesn't have the kind of power to do that kind of speed unless you've done more than just drop a jdm motor and your tranny....
personally, I'd think that even if you have the power, the car will tear itself apart at that kind of speed....
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well first the reason i got the 5 speed auto transmission is that i used to race on dirt trails with my other camry and the 5 speed transmission gives me a quicker accelration and is easier on the engine with all the hard braking and accelerating and it shifts practically like a 5 speed manual trans but i can have both hands on the wheel. i took it out of that one and put it in the one i normally drive when the trans went in that one. as far as how they made it i don't have the specs but pretty much they just took out the overdrive off capacity selection and just made it shift with the 5 gears in the normal mode and the power mode which just controls when it shifts.
as far as the dyno ques yes i did run it on a dyno. to make sure the trans ran within the engine's capacity and to see if the engine was too weak to use it. it worked out pretty good. can't redline it unless i max out 5th gear. in case you are wondering i have no governor. i bought an engine from japan directly to save the hassel of converting it over.
they basically matched the shift points with the power curve to maximize the output to the wheels.
the pros are i have a lil faster 0-60 than the stock trans, but since it is a wide range trans it takes a long time to reach 146 mph. about 52 secs.
this is not good for a 1/4 mile car unless u add alot more horsepower.
it was made for dirt rallying where i never got over 65 mph it put less strain on the engine from high rpms from the wheels constantly spinning and loss of traction from there of from accelerating.
the trans cost $2650 + tax and i got it made by Gary's computerized custom transmissions in Allentown PA
i also have body braces for extra support. thats something i do to every car, suspension is all new too (stock suspension) after my other camry that i raced went through 3 cracked frames (welded and braced) and 4 strut changes in 3 years before i tore the bottom off of it slidding into a fallen tree at 45 mph. ripped the trans, hubs, contorl arm, puntured the cabin on the right side and bent in the oil pan and tore the bearings and the tire off the passenger side
it does have vibration at 146mph but nothing really major.
hope this clears this up
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I got an 88 3SFE and i've gotten it up to over 120, when does the governor kick in? or cud it be that I dont have one since i got an 88?
I've never heard of anyone hitting the govenor on the 3s-fe. I personally don't think Toyota bothered to put one in because the car doesn't have enough power to go very fast (the fastest I have gone in mine is 115, but I could probably do just over 120). If there is a govenor, what is it set at?
-Charlie
The governor is definetly there. For some reason, it seems to only be on some 2nd gens though. I have heard of a couple people taking the 2nd gen up to 130mph. Takes a while to get there but it is capable. My car has the stupid governor on it and it cuts in at about 112mph. It really sucks to because my car pulls harder than stock at high speeds and to just slam into the governor like that is kind of scary. Its like somebody just unexpectably stabbed the brakes at 100+ mph.
The governor is definetly there. For some reason, it seems to only be on some 2nd gens though. I have heard of a couple people taking the 2nd gen up to 130mph. Takes a while to get there but it is capable. My car has the stupid governor on it and it cuts in at about 112mph. It really sucks to because my car pulls harder than stock at high speeds and to just slam into the governor like that is kind of scary. Its like somebody just unexpectably stabbed the brakes at 100+ mph.
Come to think of it, years ago (like 5ish?) I got my Camry up to about 115. I remember at the time it felt like the engine cut out, but I'm not sure. More recently, I got my car up to 115 (I think) and didn't feel anything cut out. Who knows... I'll have to find a nice safe spot to try a top speed run sometime. High speeds are a lot nicer now with a stiffer suspension and a little more power 'cruising' at 90 is so smooth...
-Charlie
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1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd - SV25/ST205 hybrid
1990 Camry 3S-GTE 5spd - parted out / junked
1990 Camry DX 3S-FE 5spd - The original white90dx; gone but not forgotten
I have a 90 camry with a 5 speed manual and I've gotten it up to 125. I didn't feel a governor or anything lower my rpms, but I did decide to take my foot off the gas so I didn't risk getting a huge ticket. As far as not being able to get the car that fast, when you're doing 100 and your engine's doing about 3700 rpms; it has a lot more power than you would think. After you get it at about 100 it responds very well.
I have a 90 camry with a 5 speed manual and I've gotten it up to 125. I didn't feel a governor or anything lower my rpms, but I did decide to take my foot off the gas so I didn't risk getting a huge ticket. As far as not being able to get the car that fast, when you're doing 100 and your engine's doing about 3700 rpms; it has a lot more power than you would think. After you get it at about 100 it responds very well.
Yup, like I said some cars have the governor, some don't. Mine definetly does. And I agree with you, Its no secret that the 2nd gen Camry is just plain slow but Toyota did an excellent job of making good use of what power the car does have. Everybody who rides in my car is always very surprised at how well the car accelerates and cruises on the freeway and its highspeed capabilities given its lackluster 0 to 60 performance.
ok, governer. they suck. i have a 89 3sfe. i installed a tach on the automatic and i had 124 till it high reved. i dont remeber what the rpm's were but it was significantly higher than when you put the gas to the floor in park or nuetral and it high revs. they arent the fastest things but they sure do whip up terribly on yuppies and their honda's.
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