OEM Springs?

[MadDawg]

Well the tokico struts are holding up beautifuly on my 96 camry, but i'm wondering if i should replace my springs, maybe they are sagging too, i dont want a lowering kit, i dont really care for it, i was curious if there is any oem style springs out there that are stiffer than oem... jus curious

[Knailgun]

Originally Posted by MadDawg

Well the tokico struts are holding up beautifuly on my 96 camry, but i'm wondering if i should replace my springs, maybe they are sagging too, i dont want a lowering kit, i dont really care for it, i was curious if there is any oem style springs out there that are stiffer than oem... jus curious

not really, personally, springs are like vodka, some is subtle, some is aggressive.....check it out


I'd imagine with 10 years, the springs are a weeeee bit saggy

[2wickedtoyz]

i got springs for a gen3 v6 wagon they don't sag at all

[MadDawg]

hmm, anyone know where to find and how much OEM springs are?

[mspringer]

Just go with the Eibech springs. OEMs are too soft for normal use, anyway.
Also, as stated above, your 96 springs are likely sagging enough that the Eibechs will not be any noticible difference in ride-height. (The Eibechs advertise a 1.2 inch drop - nice, but not a lot of drop.)

I put Eibechs and Tokicos on my 97, with only 65k miles on it, and it is 1000 time better. Ride quality is great, stiffer (which it needed), and cornering is controlled and much flatter, with little body roll.

By the way, the OEM struts were all bad, which surprised me for the mileage on the car. You could compress the OEM struts with your bare hands, so they weren't doing much for the car.

[MadDawg]

Originally Posted by mspringer

Just go with the Eibech springs. OEMs are too soft for normal use, anyway.
Also, as stated above, your 96 springs are likely sagging enough that the Eibechs will not be any noticible difference in ride-height. (The Eibechs advertise a 1.2 inch drop - nice, but not a lot of drop.)

I put Eibechs and Tokicos on my 97, with only 65k miles on it, and it is 1000 time better. Ride quality is great, stiffer (which it needed), and cornering is controlled and much flatter, with little body roll.

By the way, the OEM struts were all bad, which surprised me for the mileage on the car. You could compress the OEM struts with your bare hands, so they weren't doing much for the car.

I prefer H&R over eibach, but i cant have it lowered any lower than it already is, the type of work i do, involves driving into peoples driveways with people in my car, the slightest drop makes me bottom out on anything apon everything...

[chasman]

Originally Posted by MadDawg

Well the tokico struts are holding up beautifuly on my 96 camry, but i'm wondering if i should replace my springs, maybe they are sagging too, i dont want a lowering kit, i dont really care for it, i was curious if there is any oem style springs out there that are stiffer than oem... jus curious

hmm, anyone know where to find and how much OEM springs are?

Per Tokico:
- Tokico struts are specifically designed to work with OEM or Tokico brand springs.
- It is the springs that support the weight of the car - therefore they must be specifically designed for each model - i.e. wagons weigh more - springs for sedan applications are not appropriate.

Anti-roll or Sway bars

A suspension does not have to have anti-roll bars, however they are quite common on many vehicles. The anti-roll bar is designed to help reduce body roll or lean. By using anti-roll bars, vehicle manufacturers are able to reduce spring stiffness. Softer springs improve ride quality and they help adhesion in many situations.


Anti-roll bars can also be used to improve handling balance. However, bars that are too large (too stiff) can reduce adhesion on slick surfaces. This is especially true on snow and ice. They can also be a disadvantage for serious off-road driving.

If you want:
- "stiffer than OEM"
- do not want lowering springs
- and already have Tokico sturts
consider lower-profile tires and/or Whiteline anti-sway bars.

OEM springs list: ~$400
Web: $254 + shipping for a set of four (Gen2 wgn). However, Toyota raises prices every 6 months - just went up in Jan.

Most local Toyota dealers charge full list price for parts or provide a 10% discount if you bought your car from them. Then of course add sales tax. So, I searched the web for discount suppliers of genuine Toyota parts and found many. The best I found offered 25% off suggested list. Be aware that some of these companies charge up to 10-15% for shipping. http://www.toyotapart.com/ provides 25% off & does not overcharge for shipping - Ask for Greg - very knowledgeable.

Also, you may want to check out the following suspension upgrade links:

TN FAQ Database: http://www.toyotanation.com/faq/all_...prog=1&lang=en

Springs & Struts Guide: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t15505.html

Hope this helps,

[MadDawg]

No you dont understand... i want "ground clearance" not cornering ability without the sway bars or springs... i was just thinking, does brands like Eibach or H&R offer the ability to offer their same pro-kit springs but at oem height specifications? cuz i hear they're stiffer...

[chasman]

Originally Posted by MadDawg

No you dont understand... i want "ground clearance" not cornering ability without the sway bars or springs... i was just thinking, does brands like Eibach or H&R offer the ability to offer their same pro-kit springs but at oem height specifications? cuz i hear they're stiffer...

Hello MadDawg,

I replied to your 04-03-2006 & 04-04-2006 posts. Apparently, I overlooked your 04-04-2006 reply where you expressed a preference in H&R. The more info you put into your original question, the more likely you'll be to receive the answer you seek.

New OEM springs will be stiffer than old OEM springs. I know from first hand experience as we just overhauled our 87 Gen2 suspension with Tokico strut inserts & new Toyota springs.

If you want to know if H&R has what you specifically have in mind, call 888-827-8881 and ask their tech support folks. Tech support at Tokico was terrific - our thanks to Dan Sugra for all the great advice!