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Old 02-01-2003, 08:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HID like halogen conversion and comparison (w/pics)

Recently, I became interested in achieving HID like quality lighting without paying the high price. I knew that nothing would truely compare, but you never know how close you can get.

I did some online shopping and found a site that sold Falcon Xenon energized xtreme super white HID 100/80 watt bulbs. Being that there are a million brands out there like this and it was online, I had no way to know if it was a scam or not, but the they were only $19.99 for a pair. Here's a pic:



According to the packaging, these bulbs are rated at 4300 k.

Now, one of the claims on the website I purchased these from was "THESE LIGHTS ARE NOT PAINTED ON CHEAPOS THAT HAVE A BLUEISH TINT". When I swapped out my stock bulbs, I was, of course, quickly dissappointed to find out that they did infact cast blue light onto the road. Nevertheless the color temp was high so I left them in for over month.

What I found is that in normal driving conditions these bulbs function fine, but I wouldn't say any better than stock. However, in adverse weather such as rain or snow, they are terrible. I found that visibility of the road was impossible at times. Also, because of the blueish tint, road signs were difficult to read, especially ones with white backgrounds.

Having experienced all this, I read more reviews and time and time again Sylvania Silverstars came up as the best way to go, so I picked up a pair.

I swapped out the drivers side bulb with a silverstar and left the Falcon Hyper white in the passenger side. Here's a pic with low beams:



Here's the highs:



I took the remaining Falcon bulb out and put a stock back in to truely assess the difference in the silverstar. (Silverstar in drivers side, stock in passenger):



With the highs:



Sorry, no pics with stock and Falcon's...

While the Falcon's color temp is slightly higher than that of the silverstar (4300 to 4100 k) the silverstar must put out more Lumens because it's brighter.

The bottom line is that the silverstars are better than both stcck and cool blue like bulbs. I would say the difference between stock and silverstars is very marginal, and, in most cases, certainly not worth $50 (approx. cost os silverstars).

Just wanted to post some pics to give you guys an idea if you're thinking about anything like this.
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Old 02-01-2003, 08:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nice color....but i was kinda intrested in getting super whites...im not really sure what to get cuz to tell u the truth i dont want to spend to much...im considering PIAAs but i want to know what else is out there and what other people think about it


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From what I've read, the PIAA and Silverstars are comparable. However, the PIAA's use a higher wattage (80w) to achieve the brighness while the silverstars do it with only 55w. Because of that, I've read that the PIAA's burn out quickly, but I can't confirm that.

Either way, neither will give you that "white" look... the pics posted distort the color of the bulbs. The silverstar looks just like a normal bulb, just a little whiter...
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well the PIAAs im looking at are the 9006 and on the PIAA site it say it uses Wattage 51w = 115w, 4000K.....so what would you recommend? i want a good look but im not sure if i would want to spend more than $70for a pair.....any advice?
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PIAA has a lifetime warranty. i say if you are willing to spend $60 then go for the PIAA's, i know people that have head there bulbs for over 2years.
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Old 02-01-2003, 11:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Awseome so im gonna get the PIAAs...BUT I NEED HELP>>.what type of bulb is the corner light (i cant find my manual) i need maby a chart...all of the charts i have been looking at dont give me the corner light size!!!!!!!!
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how much are REAL HIDs..?



p.s., nice sig and avatar RSCD... :wink:
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you can do a check on eBay, the cost for the conversion kits ranges from $299 to about $400US
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btw, there is just no comparison between those so-called xenon super-white or HID -like halogen bulb vs. real HID..
no matter if you buy a PIAA extreme white bulb, they will never provide you with the same amount of intensity or lumens as the real HID..
I just don't find those bulbs very cost-effective
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p.s., nice sig and avatar RSCD... :wink:
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Awseome so im gonna get the PIAAs...BUT I NEED HELP>>.what type of bulb is the corner light (i cant find my manual) i need maby a chart...all of the charts i have been looking at dont give me the corner light size!!!!!!!!
Not sure what car you have, but on my Gen 3 the corner bulbs are 194.
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how much are REAL HIDs..?



p.s., nice sig and avatar RSCD... :wink:
my hid's were 550
hey you got any pics of your HIDs?
i wanna see what hids look like in a stock gen 3 housing.
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my hid's were only 500 and nothing can compare to real ones!
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So are silverstars slightly yellowish tone like stock bulbs? I am looking for the brightest possible bulb w/o melting w/ a bluish tint to it.
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how much are REAL HIDs..?



p.s., nice sig and avatar RSCD... :wink:
my hid's were 550
hey you got any pics of your HIDs?
i wanna see what hids look like in a stock gen 3 housing.
they arn't even installed yet
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