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Old 04-11-2006, 06:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation brake squeek with new pads

When I got my gen 4 (1999) I threw new pads on all the way around just to be sure I had good ones on the car.
They came from the local parts store and were good quality. (not the cheap ones)
I've now got a good bit of squeeking every time I put on the brakes lightly and it's just slightly annoying. (heavy braking is squeekless)
The new pads didn't come with any sort of backing and I'm wondering if Camrys usually have some sort of anti-squeek pad/layer/whatever?

I'm about to pull all the wheels to change back to summer tires/rims and this would be the perfect time to fix this up if there's something I need to add inbehind the pads.

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Old 04-11-2006, 11:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The OE pads should have had some kinfd of shim that clips onto the back of the pad. They also nomally have spring clips that insert into small holes on the pab to help keep some tension on them so they dont rattle in the caliper. You can get the hardware kit from Toyota or you may try some of your local parts stores to see if they areavailable aftermarket.
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2nd Generation

What you may need is a small bit of high-temperature grease here and there.

A lot of people think changing the pads is all that is required to service the brakes, but there are many places that need cleaning and lubricating. When I recently did my wife's Gen2 1990 Camry, I cleaned and regreased the slide pins, cleaned all the brake dust off the calipers/housings/pistons (don't breathe the dust though), and put a thin coat of grease on all the contact points where the pads touch/slide/move. I personally also put a thin layer on the back of both pads just to keep things quiet and keep things from seizing/crusting together.

You also want to make sure that all your hardware is good - spring clips, springs that join outer and inner pad (wire that goes into holes on them), etc. etc etc. Resurfacing/replacing the rotors, checking for glazing/hardened pads, checking hoses, and checking the pistons for free movement in and out of the caliper are a few other things to look at.

But after all is said and done - sometimes the things still squeak (a tiny bit) her and there - so as long as I know I have everything maintained and kept an eye on I don't let it worry me.

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Good post Tracy!

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Old 04-11-2006, 11:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the pads might also need to be broken in. search online for it, i dont know the exact procedure (also depends on the pad material) but new pads squeeking is a problem thereof
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grease it up behind the calipers and the pads
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What you may need is a small bit of high-temperature grease here and there.

A lot of people think changing the pads is all that is required to service the brakes, but there are many places that need cleaning and lubricating. When I recently did my wife's Gen2 1990 Camry, I cleaned and regreased the slide pins, cleaned all the brake dust off the calipers/housings/pistons (don't breathe the dust though), and put a thin coat of grease on all the contact points where the pads touch/slide/move. I personally also put a thin layer on the back of both pads just to keep things quiet and keep things from seizing/crusting together.

You also want to make sure that all your hardware is good - spring clips, springs that join outer and inner pad (wire that goes into holes on them), etc. etc etc. Resurfacing/replacing the rotors, checking for glazing/hardened pads, checking hoses, and checking the pistons for free movement in and out of the caliper are a few other things to look at.

But after all is said and done - sometimes the things still squeak (a tiny bit) her and there - so as long as I know I have everything maintained and kept an eye on I don't let it worry me.

Good luck and God bless
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You can also use spray or spread-on "disc brake quiet" on the backs of the pads. It is a tacky substance that is applied to the back of the pads. Give it about 5 minutes to set up and then reinstall the pads. It keeps the pads from vibrating in the calipers. It's this vibration that usually causes the noise. I haven't have as much luck using the high temperature grease on the backs of the pads. YMMV.

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You'll want to make sure to use a synthetic type grease specifically for this purpose. Petroleum based grease will weaken the caliper piston seal.
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try taking them back and get OE pads from your dealership. I drive for a living, and after a year with AutoZone's finest pads, I got tired of them squeaking too. They'd squeak when the light pressure was applied, but nothing during a hard stop. Maybe the design, maybe the materials, but the Toyota pads haven't squeaked at all.

Oh, and petroleum greases should not be used, as they are temperature sensitive (i.e. flammable), and may cause other problems.
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camry's doesnt seem to like aftermarket brake pads... only oem ones. I had nice stuff from Kragen on my 98 camry... squeeked like crazy and just bought pads from toyota and never squeeked.
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I have used Raybestos "full ceramics" on both my 94 and 98 Camrys with noise no and minimal amounts of brake dust. I tried their "semi ceramics" first on one car and got some noise, so I swaped them out for the "full ceramics" and it made quite a difference.

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I replaced mine with OEM brake pads on the front and for me, they squeak considerably loud with light pressure and no squeaks with hard pressure. Also, the dust builds up really quick with OEM pads. One thing I'm always not sure about is where exactly to apply the "brake quiet" material; I know we should put it on the back of the pads, how about the back of the metal shims where the piston makes contact?
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I replaced mine with OEM brake pads on the front and for me, they squeak considerably loud with light pressure and no squeaks with hard pressure. Also, the dust builds up really quick with OEM pads. One thing I'm always not sure about is where exactly to apply the "brake quiet" material; I know we should put it on the back of the pads, how about the back of the metal shims where the piston makes contact?
Compared to the aftermarket, I've got very little dust from the OE pads. I put the anti-sqeal gunk on the back of the pad and then placed the pad on the shim (term?)
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When I use the "disc brake quiet" spray or goop, I don't bother with the shims. I keep them in my garage just in case I ever go back to Toyota OEM pads. I have never had a problem using just the disc brake quiet without the shims, as long as I stick to the Raybestos full ceramic pads.

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What about Rotors, u should replace the rotors if theres squeaking noise.
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