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View Poll Results: Have you upgraded your rear drums to discs?
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Old 04-22-2006, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Drum-to-Disc: How many of you have made this mod?

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How many of you have converted your Camry's rear drums to discs?
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i have not...because in my situation, and a lot of others on here with nothing more than minor mods, the drum to disk is overkill. the overall all cost and labour involved would not be worth the overall gains in braking performance. i'd think about it if i were turboed or blown but i'd rather spend my time installing bigger and better rotors/pads in the fronts.
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No, not yet, but planning to do so

Waiting on someone to finish with their Supra Rotors *wink wink*
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i got all the parts but haven't gotten around to putting it on yet LAZY ME
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wheres the "no, dont need to" option =)
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i have not...because in my situation, and a lot of others on here with nothing more than minor mods, the drum to disk is overkill. the overall all cost and labour involved would not be worth the overall gains in braking performance. i'd think about it if i were turboed or blown but i'd rather spend my time installing bigger and better rotors/pads in the fronts.


Consider this before you think about spending a lot of money on going from stock rear drum to disc The front brakes do the majority of the braking.
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I did it.
Did it reduce your 60-0 distance? Based on your experience, if you had it do again, would you? Do you recommed this mod?
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Consider this before you think about spending a lot of money on going from stock rear drum to disc The front brakes do the majority of the braking.
Is there a recommended more cost-effective brake system mod for the front that will yield a significant reduction in 60-0 distance?

Will simply switching to high performance pads yield a significant reduction in 60-0 distance?
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^ Yeah, the best thing you can do if you cant dump some good money into brakes is just stick to good rotors and put some nice pads in, dont go with drilled or slotted rotors, those are just for looks (unless its Porsche).
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^ I wrote "cost-effective" because you wrote
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Consider this before you think about spending a lot of money on going from stock rear drum to disc
I suspect 2-pot or 4-pot front calipers with or w/o larger diameter front discs may be more expensive than a rear drum to disc conversion when you factor in that:
- Larger wheels & tires may be needed to accommodate larger front brake components
- Used parts are available for the rear disc-to-drum conversion

How many hours of labor is needed for the conversion?

Is there a recommended front brake upgrade that will cost less than a rear drum-to-disc conversion and still yield a significant reduction in 60-0 distance?
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^ I wrote "cost-effective" because you wrote
I suspect 2-pot or 4-pot front calipers with or w/o larger diameter front discs may be more expensive than a rear drum to disc conversion when you factor in that:
- Larger wheels & tires may be needed to accommodate larger front brake components
- Used parts are available for the rear disc-to-drum conversion

How many hours of labor is needed for the conversion?

Is there a recommended front brake upgrade that will cost less than a rear drum-to-disc conversion and still yield a significant reduction in 60-0 distance?
better tyres.

even standard brakes with lock your wheels up with enough pedal pressure. a 'brake upgrade' will give better brake feel, allowing you to brake easier, but not really any shorter.
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better tyres.
Agreed.

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even standard brakes with lock your wheels up with enough pedal pressure. a 'brake upgrade' will give better brake feel, allowing you to brake easier, but not really any shorter.
So why do many new cars now have 4-wheel disc?

Per the 87 Camry's Owner's Manual:
A Camry with a fully operational braking system and a light load will stop from 60 MPH in:
  • 176 feet (64 m) for all sedans
  • 175 feet (63 m) for all wagons
By today's standards these results are well below average. Most newer cars (not SUVs) will stop from 60 MPH in 120 to 150 feet.
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i have a saved site where they showed you can use celica front brakes on a gen2 camry the rotor is 1' bigger than the gen2 and it just bolts up with celica calipers but unfortunally it's off a rare GT4 that not a lot came to US.....

and i don't think rear upgrade are too expensive for the gen2... i got the whole hub+rotor+caliper+lines for 60$ each side at the junk yard...then i went back on 50% off day for the other side ..i paid 90$ for the whole setup it was pulled from a v6 gen2....i think you can take it from a es250 too... yeah i'll be replacing the rotor/pads but it's still pretty cheap if you ask me....remmeber to get the proportion valve too !!

labor it took me about 1 hr each side using no power tools to take it off.. so the swap i would assume a whole day if you have time.. just to do it right...no skipping steps when working on your brakes.. and get some flare wrenches if you don't want stripped brake nuts/lines
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Thumbs up ^ Excellent information atobe!

Please let us know the results of your upgrade. Perhaps you could even test your 60-0 MPH distance before and after the drum-to-disc conversion? Before & after results would be awesome!!

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