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Old 02-20-2003, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question exhaust procedure

well instead of getting eibachs, i decided to get a greddy evo cat-back. i thought that i could get different spring rates if the canister was scratching. well anywho...one thing's stopping me: installation...could i do this by myself?? people tell me that its just bolt on right??? no welding?? either greddy or custom piping from a local muffler shop. cant decide, but will buy soon...in fact, the bills in my hands are getting sweaty from anticipation...:p thanks tners
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Old 02-20-2003, 05:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I had the Greddy on my 1997 camry and its direct bolt on.Only time it ever hit the ground was when the angle of the exits was too high or the potholes where humongus..
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well i just got back from a muffler shop. i could get custom cat-back with a magnaflow muffler. the pipes will be 2.5in with an 1/8 of an inch loss at the bends. btw, is magnaflow a decent brand?? the only raves i hear come from the ads! this setup will be 2/3 of the price of the greddy. is the mandrel piping really worth the 1/3 of the cost?? cant wait...depends on all of your words of wisdom...
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hell yeah! its woth the cost, mandrel bend has a much much better airflow. that will sound a hole lot better than crimp bend. and yes if you have or have acces to hand tools a jack and some stands its a direct bolt on, shouldnt take very long at all go with the greddy defeneitely
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really?? the guy told me i would only lose 1/8 of an inch at the bends. does that make that much difference?? that liar...he assured me that it would be similar...
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The problem with crimped bends is exhaust turbulance will be increased due to uneven path sizes.That means it can ruduce maximum power output.I am planing on selling my new HKS titanium exhaust catback at a good price and its all mandrel bent too.
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I have a 2000 Solara and was looking this spring to do the cat-back. How does the Apex'i World Sport compare to the Greddy Evo ?? I have also heard Tanabe Hyper Medallion is out there for the Solara, true or not ?? If so how would that compare ?

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The problem with crimped bends is exhaust turbulance will be increased due to uneven path sizes.That means it can ruduce maximum power output.I am planing on selling my new HKS titanium exhaust catback at a good price and its all mandrel bent too.
Will this fit a 95 Camry LE? And what size is the piping?
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It wont fit a 1995 the hangers and exhaust piping is not the same.Im going to sell the catback for 450$ around its all 75mm piping with a 120mm tip..
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Will that HKS cat-back you're selling fit a 2000 Solara ? Do you have a site that has a pic of it ? I didn't think HKS made anything that fit Gen4's. How long did you use it ?? or is it totally new.

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Its brand new and custom made of a section of mandrel bent stainless steel.I should have pics of my exhaust and turbo kit soon when my site is back up next week..BTW this is a new catback none used the same as the ones im using with my car .
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If you are not getting mandrel bends, you are wasting your money and your time. Do it right or don't do it at all.

A cat-back exhaust is simply a pipe with the correct shape to accomodate your car's length and location of bends. You do not need to purchase a brand name cat-back system - even if it is available. Have one custom made by a competent PERFORMANCE exhaust shop - not Joe Blow's exhaust shop down the street, and not a at a shop that tells you crush bends are as good as mandrel bends.

HKS, Tanabe, Apex'i or any of the brand names have the same construction with relatively the same materials. They will give you similar results - i.e. roughly 2 HPS if that's all you're doing.

As for the springs, there isn't a spring out there that lowers your car far enough to make your exhaust scrape - unless your muffler is ridiculously huge.
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I wouldn't buy a catback exhaust except for one made by a reputible manufacturer. With an exhaust on the 1MZ-FE you will only gain 5-6hp at the wheels, any loss in piping or air flow will make these gains negligable. I have the apexi world sport and its great. It was exactly what i was looking for, nice power increase, good size piping, and its quiet. Quiet enough so you don't announce yourself to everyone and its sounds sweet in the car. But outside it does have a nice sound. The Greddy is a great exhaust too but its backordered indefinately and probally won't be produced for a while. Been on backorder for almost a year. The greddy also drones around 2000-3000RPM

Heres a more detailed discussion from solaraguy.com

http://www.zer0.info/solaraguy/viewtopic.php?t=2649

Sorry to cross link but it was very relavent to this topic.

Personally i would do springs/struts before i do exhaust because you will notice a lot more gains from a suspension then exhaust. It all depends what you are looking for.
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BTW the exhaust isn't hard if you have a jack stands and a ratchet. Also it helps A LOT if you have a friend to help you.
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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hey thanks guys. i was wondering how the greddy compared to the apexi. greddy: $485shipped apexi: $415shipped. i really cant decide cuz nobody has tricked out camrys so i dont know sound gains etc:o im gonna order tomarrow so im hella anxious! oh hella is a cali word for all you canadians.haha.im gonna get mandrel bent for sure tho.thanx

btw the "joe blow guy" told me that machines that mandrel bend cost up to six figures so he said not many shops have em. true??
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