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I know there is alot on this out there but, how would you control a auto trans. I know that most use the 3sgte ECM, which are manul trans. I dont think any of the ones i read have coverd this. I am plaing a build of my engine soon. Any help out there?
Give it more credit than that. The rateing i was told by a friends says it should hold up to it. I am tring to build a sleeper car. Not going to do much right now, may want to go manual later. The auto is so much nicer in stop and go traffic where i live. I ma new to the sport compact cars I am use to the old cars like camaro and mustangs.
As for if the trans breaks I can fix it. Not to hard have rebuilt them befor. I am just wondering what would have to be done to make the trans work! as the 3sgte Ecm does not support an auto trans, and the 5sfe does not read boost.
Would i need a standalone for the trans or engine and how would I incorparate it in to the system. I hate the engine light and dont want to see it after i do this.
What wosre getting beat by a sleeper car , or getting beat by a auto sleeper car. By the way i have a sleeper Wrangler. Looks stock in ever aspect but has no eletronic timeing and is also auto. It kills ford 4.0 dead. Funny what high flow cat and K&N do to the I6 that is matched to a cherokee trans with a towing kit added to it. Also i can turn the Electronics off and its a manual.
You could get a piggyback and a 2 bar map sensor to read boost (since you'll need something to tune the fuel and timing anyway) and use the standard 5SFE ECU.
I would suggest reading up a little more before you jump into the realm of boost so you don't blow your engine.
Also i think someone said the 5SFE sensors can read boost, but only like 5 PSI or something like that. It was a while ago so i may be remembering incorrectly.
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warning: auto tranny go boom w. boost. If you are serious about boosting, sell auto for manual or swap a manual in if budget permits. I have heard nothing but bad things about the autos for boosting.
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Hey thanks ECale3. That helps me, i did not want to go in it head strong and blow the motor right off. I never thought of a piggy back. I had heard that the Celica map sensor will plug in to the camry. I know a little on it and wanted more info that why i asked.
Also to my jeep it runs 90% motor. There a few mods that i did not tell. secrets to if you come up on me.
Also if you want to use the auto tranny you're gonna want to get it built up (boosting through a shift is real bad for the stock auto). It is really not made to handle much power. You could use the 3SGTE MAP sensor.
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Also if you want to use the auto tranny you're gonna want to get it built up (boosting through a shift is real bad for the stock auto). It is really not made to handle much power. You could use the 3SGTE MAP sensor.
Hey thanks agine.
I just got off the phone with a friend he was telling me that the auto is better in some ways. He said yea it boost in shiting. but it will not blow off when you shift, and rpm's are not lost during the shift. Also if i did not try and slam it from N to drive I should be fine. He went on to tell me that it is harder to break something if it is rolling unless the transmission makes a mistake. I dont belive he is lieing but was wanting to know if he has it correct.
Here is the plan for my camry. I am going to build the engine and run it for a while. I am going to start at 5-7 pounds or the stock for a 3s-gte I belive. Then as my budget grows I am going to look in to a swap in transmissions and intercoolers. I think it is the Solara trans im looking at. After this I am hopeing to do a little work on the inside like fix the cracked dash. but first while im building the engine, i need to take care of the rust on it. The car came from VA. the rear is coverd pretty good. I just got the car 2 weeks ago.
I have not driven it alot. but from what it feels like i think this one has traction control on it. My other 94 did not i could burn the tires off in a heart beat. Has any one seen this before? It is real slugish on take off but once it moves it moves. i know it wont move like the jeep but come on. I cant even spin with the steering wheel locked to one side, it will cherp and that is it. After the cherp it takes off very slow. Once out of 1st it is fine. Also 1st is not slipping done looked at that.
Ok, I think this part might have already been explained to you but incase you didn't understand it too well you do not use the 3SGTE ECU when you go turbo. The 5SFE uses a MAP Sensor just as the 3SGTE uses, the problem is that it’s not calibrated to have output values for boost situations. This is where the 3SGTE (found in both MR2s and Celica's) MAP sensor comes into play. Swap this out with your stock one and your motor will read boost.
As far as your auto tranny, boosting the vehicle and making no modifications on your auto tranny will cause it to suffer from fatigue and will rob you of more and more power until it completely fails. What I would suggest if you are not looking into doing some serious work into the auto tranny right now is to upgrade to a Synthetic fluid (like Redline, Royal Purple, B&M, etc) and also to add in a Tranny-cooler. With the upgrade in power you will be seeing you will be generating more heat and stress on the tranny. The tranny cooler will help minimize these situations
You should just read the sticky man and sorry but intake and exhaust (not even full exhaust) do not make a sleeper. Just do a 5 speed and dont dick around. Go full force or dont go at all.
Luis Thanks, I could not remeber which one had boost reading. So far you are one of the only ones no condeming me for use of an auto. I am thinking of tapping in to the lines that run to my stock cooler and move a 2ndery cooler to the side of the front bumper to help with cooling. The plain is to look for better clutches and go full syn.
Back to my jeep. I built the trans added high grade clutches. after this i went to a place cant remeber the name and got the valve body which makes shift even better. best $600 i everspent. Also this tranny can be ran as auto, sime auto, or manul depending on your need. the engine has a few things plugs, wirers, ported header and intake. the I6 is stock inside to pass new inspection. custom exhuast from the header back. Cant tell every thing I have done. mOst is wireing and fualing the ECM to run stock for testing. This jeep was a manul to start with. The manual feel out in about a year so far not even a slip out of the auto. Also need now is LSD's for the axels. 3 row radiator, updated lines. 3.73 gears with 31x10.5 tires. The next plan once the hip about the emision inspections dies down a little it is going to be stroked out and have forged pistons and rods. there will be NoZ on it. This project is still ion the works too.
and no one is condemning you for using an auto tranny, look at tony the tiger's car, hes got the fastest camry known to man and hes on an auto trans, but you can bet your sleeper jeep it isnt a stock auto trans. you gotta look into this stuff and research, a bone stock auto tranny IS NOT going to hold up for long and it will rob you of power, end of story.
if you want to waste your time and money go for it, all we are trying to do is help you.
Hey sorry thought you were tring to condem me for it.
I know my jeep can be beat im not one of these that thinks i cant be beaten. lol i have been killed some times. like raceing a stock camry VS a camaro. U can get the pic. Yea i know i would lose but man that one was bad.
I know i have to build it to use it. My plan is to rebuild it with all new stuff, unless there is a auto trans that will hold up to more. I have heard that a v6 trans from a solara will do it. Is this true? I am going to look up tony the tiger's car here in a few, but got to run the car and get the oil canged and inspceted. lol hate inspection I can do the oil myself but am lazy today.
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