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Old 06-20-2006, 07:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation NEED Ground Wiring Kit!!!!

So I want to stablize the electrical "circuit" that basically my whole car makes as you all know. How should I go about this? Buy from E-bay? Local parts store? I've heard of the big 3. I'm looking for the best way to improve the "circuit". Money is not an issue. All recommendations welsome. Thanks.
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you want something to make life easy, Ebay will see a kit with 8 guage wire for about 6 different ground points.

If you want to spend some, buy 1/0 guage power wire about $2.00/ft plus you will have to buy Terminal Rings & DIY install or pay a car audio place to install for you.

The larger the wire, the easier the current will flow, crazy car audio people will tell you anything less than 1/0 is pointless, other s will say 2,4 or 8 will get you there. Just depends who you talk to. But in the end what matters is the distance and the thickness Look at this chart and come to your own conclusions, about what size to use.
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you want something to make life easy, Ebay will see a kit with 8 guage wire for about 6 different ground points.

If you want to spend some, buy 1/0 guage power wire about $2.00/ft plus you will have to buy Terminal Rings & DIY install or pay a car audio place to install for you.

The larger the wire, the easier the current will flow, crazy car audio people will tell you anything less than 1/0 is pointless, other s will say 2,4 or 8 will get you there. Just depends who you talk to. But in the end what matters is the distance and the thickness Look at this chart and come to your own conclusions, about what size to use.
1/0g wire would be a waste unless your running a HUGE sound system or ALOT of electrical products.....if you don't have some crazy audio install do 4g.next month imma upgrade all my ground wires with 4g wiring and im also going to replace the stock battery cables with 4g(both positive and negative). i already did the big-3 on my car...here's my DIY.....http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t89855.html

this is the DIY imma use to upgrade my battery cables............http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t40482.html
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The larger the wire, the easier the current will flow....
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Electrons flow on the outside of the copper strands, not in them. So, overall size doesn't matter. True (more common than not) larger GA wire, will have more conductors than smaller wire, but it's not always true.
Angel hair (common name, not technical) is a type of wire loved by audio enthusiasts due to it's TINY individual copper strands and super low resistance. With the MANY MANY conductors it contains, and knowing that a electrons flow on the surface of the surface of each, it will out flow a Gigantic, solid (Single conductor), copper wire and even many lesser quality wires.

Size has no relation to the 'ease' of flow.

Now, as for grounding systems. As it was discussed in the High Amperage alternator thread. They will help with systems where resistance is causing a loss of power, however, to 'stabalize' the system, I'd consider it unnecessary. Car's aren't just whipped together at the factory. Lots of engineering and planning comes into play. In most any car made in the last 15-20 years or so, you shouldn't have to mess with the electrical system much other than typical R&R or unless ground leads are damaged.
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Even though your car's electrical system is 12VDC, pick stranded wire. Because they are in motion stretching and bending.

Ina DC system, the electrons travels across the face (like a plate) of the conductor.
AC travels at the skin (like a paper tube) of the conductor.
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Thanks guys, everything here was a big help. I'll be doing this very very soon. Thanks Again!!!
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