What Do You Think About This Coolant...???

[ptycamry]

Sup guys..

I decided to do a coolant flush in my V6 Camry..

I'm going to drain all the coolant and then refill it with 2 liters of this SONAX Coolant Protectant with Antifreeze and the rest with water..



Anyone tried it before..?? Thanks...

[keithy]

just out of curiosity, why did you choose that coolant of everything(toyota red, and other aftermarket brands)?

[ptycamry]

I went to a local performance shop to get my Hella Twin-Tone horn a little while ago and I saw this coolant, I remembered my coolant needed to be changed, so I asked the owner of the shop, and he said that this coolant is awesome, he's used it in many cars with great results, made in Germany...

So I was wondering if anyone heard of it or tried it before and if it would be OK with my car...

[Hajoca]

You want a HOAT type coolant and be Silicate Free.
Stick with Toyota Red, and mix yourself. I believe you will need more coolant/antifreeze than 2 Litres.

[marc780]

so I asked the owner of the shop, and he said that this coolant is awesome

after which you gave your money to him for this marvelous product, that is doubtless better than any other antifreeze known to man. what did you pay?

[southpawz]

Reminds me of a bottle of Windex

[renmike]

I hope you do all of your own maintenance, because if someone checked your antifreeze (jiffy lube, for example), they'd freak out and call in for backup, thinking you've got a leak in your washer fluid bottle or something...

We used to get some machines in from Germany, and they had clear antifreeze. I kinda freaked out the first time I had to check one in. If I hadn't confirmed that it had like -40 deg. protrection, I would've tried to drain it and put something I'm more familiar with.

I think it was propolyne glycol. I didn't get the chance to confirm that, because I don't speak German, hehe.

[toyomoho]

Here are a couple of links on this product. It appears to contain glycol plus a few other chemicals.

http://sonax.datenquelle.org/mediaworld/sx-presse/index-e.php?&treeview=28|123|143|172&treeselected=172


http://www.sonax.de/sonax-e/katalog_...product=505541

[renmike]

Where do you see its ingredients? I went to the links, but I couldn't find any technical specs.

[Novice_cardude]

Is that pure coolant or an additive?

I've seen yellow, red, green and clear coolant, but never blue

[marc780]

Recommended antifreeze in this country is glycol based with silicates added. It can be red, green, or yellow but not a one contains alcohol. Every car manufacturer i know specifically warns against coolants containing any type of alcohol.
Alcohol was used as a coolant back in the 40's and 50's when there was nothing better available. And back then it worked fine for keeping your Panzer tank engine from freezing on the Russian front, but it evaporated fast and needed to be replenished frequently. As soon as ethylene glycol based coolant came out, alcohol coolant pretty much went away.

If you want to use this coolant, i would ask Toyota about it first, because it's possible that alcohol could attack seals and parts in the cooling system.

[Camry005man]

I prefer Toyota one, but I read it and saw that coolant can be changed if your car reaches 160,000km, sparkplaugs 190,000km.

[toyomoho]

Ops, Sonax coolant DOES NOT contain alcohol! Sorry for the wrong info. I will post the MSDS for this product once I find it again.

[Hajoca]

Originally Posted by marc780

Recommended antifreeze in this country is glycol based with silicates added. It can be red, green, or yellow but not a one contains alcohol. Every car manufacturer i know specifically warns against coolants containing any type of alcohol.
Alcohol was used as a coolant back in the 40's and 50's when there was nothing better available. And back then it worked fine for keeping your Panzer tank engine from freezing on the Russian front, but it evaporated fast and needed to be replenished frequently. As soon as ethylene glycol based coolant came out, alcohol coolant pretty much went away.

If you want to use this coolant, i would ask Toyota about it first, because it's possible that alcohol could attack seals and parts in the cooling system.

Alcohol is not as benificial (useful ) against corrosion. Silacates are not favourable, they coat the aluminum system with a layer of mineral deposits, which can change the cooling rate through the metal to the anitfreeeze. There is also a problem with silacate deposits breaking free.
Silicates can be used for engines with larger coolant passageways, not recomended in your engine though.

Domestic designed engines use the high silicate coolant to fill in casting porosity and plug leaks.

[toyomoho]

Here is the MSDS on sonax coolant.

http://sdb.datenquelle.org/cms-theme...f/00051626.pdf