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Old 07-19-2006, 01:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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My Official Turbo Post!!!

Well its finally done, I have a turbo-charged, 5 speed swapped 1997 Toyota Camry !


I finally have the car running exactly the way I want it so now it is time to make the official post. I bought the car as an automatic and swapped to a S51 5 speed so the car could deal with the power of a turbo application later. I chose an ACT heavy duty clutch kit mated to a stock reconditioned flywheel as the means of putting the power down. I converted the fuel system to a return type by installing a braided stainless steel -6AN hose under the car and tapping one end into the top of the fuel sender unit and the other mates up to an Aeromotive adjustable fuel pressure regulator. I bought a Tomei fuel rail adapter for the Nissan SR20DET motor and with a little modification it dropped right in to the stock fuel rail and has a male -6AN end on the other side. Fueling the fire is a Walbro 255lph high pressure fuel pump supplying 4 Supra 7mge green top fuel injectors. The injectors were cleaned and flow tested by Witch-hunter Performance and all 4 flow above 313cc. I used a Supra 3 bar map sensor to scale the injectors back and an SAFC2 handles the MAP signal modification. A set of colder NGK copper spark plugs gapped at 0.30 was all the ignition system needed and a Dynojet wideband O2 meter keeps tabs on the air fuel ratios. Since the car is OBD2 it will automatically retard timing when it senses knock. The turbo is a rebuilt CT26 with a ceramic compressor wheel and a ported out wastegate. I modified the wastegate actuator to regulate boost around 5 psi for now but with the custom TIG welded polished stainless steel 3 inch downpipe, boost sometimes creeps up past 6 psi in the higher rpms.
Oil is feed to the turbo via a -3AN stainless steel Teflon line with all aeroquip fittings. An oil feed restrictor allows me to regulate oil pressure down to 35psi and my electric Autometer oil pressure gauge tells me the exact oil pressure at the turbo at all times. The exhaust is custom 2.5 inch turbo back done by myself and still utilizes a magna-flow high flow cat. The piping is a basically straight shot back then two mandrel bends and out through a polished Greddy Evo style straight through muffler. The charge piping is all custom aluminum 2-2.25 inch flowing through a 26x8x2.5 inch front mount intercooler. Multi -ply silicone couplers and t-bolt clamps secure the piping (some of the pictures still show a few worn gear clamps that have since been replaced.) An HKS SSQV blow off valve to fight compressor surge tops off the whole system.





Parts:
-Walbro 255lph fuel pump
-Custom -6AN return line Russell and Earls fittings
-Tomei fuel rail adapter
-Aeromotive 1:1 fuel pressure regulator
-Supra 7M-GE 315cc injectors
-NGK BKR-7ES-11 spark plugs
-Toyota CT26 turbo rebuilt w/ ceramic compressor wheel
-Toyota 3SGTE turbo manifold
-Custom waste-gate actuator for 5-6 psi
-Custom aluminum charge piping
-Front mount intercooler
-K&N air filter
-Custom 3 inch stainless steel downpipe
-Dynojet wideband O2 with laptop interface
-Custom 2.5 inch exhaust
-Magnaflow high flow cat
-Apexi SAFC2
-Autometer sport comp boost gauge
-Autometer sport comp oil pressure gauge
-Custom oil feed and drain lines
-HKS SSQV blow off valve
-ACT heavy duty clutch kit
-Oil catch can
-Tapped stock oil pan
-Mobil 1 full synthetic oil
-Unorthodox Racing underdrive pulley
-Deleted AC
-Deleted Cruise control
-Deleted balance shaft assembly
Cutting the wastegate actuator open;

Welding it back up after cutting spring down a bit

There is probably more but I tend to forget mods after awhile I have so many little things now I forget that I even have them. I haven’t been able to find a dyno close by yet baut I am still street tuning, making a pull while my buddy records on the laptop, then adjust SAFC2 repeat. I run 12.3 ratio all across the board from spool up at about 2000rpms to 4000rpms, then the ratio drops smoothly to 12.1 and tapers steadily off to 11.7 at redline. There is no detonation, no knocking and the idle is actually smoother than stock (probably due to having perfectly clean injectors) at about 600 rpms. The car runs at 14.7 air fuel while idling and at low cruising loads but plunges deep into the 12’s the moment the throttle is floored. This does not seem to be a problem. The turbo has a nice shrill scream to it as it spools up and makes full boost at about 2500 rpms and it pulls very hard up top. Mustang GT’s, V6 stangs, Camaros, Nissan Maxima’s, all kinds of Honda’s, non turbo MR2’s, Celicas, 240’s, Neon’s, Ford Focus, Sentras, and Mitsubishi Eclipses all fall short of the Turbo Camry in the straights and it will hang with mildly modded Eclipse GST’s and turbo MR2’s. I have about 500 hard miles on the kit right now and it runs a little better each day as I work out the various problems and tweak things a little at a time. The car drips a few drops of oil a day from a leaky turbo to oil supply line gasket but that is an easy fix. I tapped the stock pan for the drain line above the oil level and removed the engine balancer while I was at it. I had a problem with the car hitting fuel cut due to me misreading a gauge and running the car at 10.8 instead of 11.8 that I thought I was but that is tuned out now.
Overall I spent about $2000 and I expect that I gained about 60-70 hp and that is fine for me. I have a reliable kit and it took me a long time to plan and buy part by part. I was fortunate to find a deal on the turbo, manifold, injectors, MAP sensor, oil lines, and wastegate actuators for $400. I also ended up with an extra turbo, manifold, and injectors that came along with that box of goodness. The filter I had, the piping was from a friend, the SAFC2 was $150 from a friend, the downpipe was expensive, about $200 but cheap compared to what some would charge. I did all the labor so in the end it was a good learning experience but now I think I will move on. I am selling the Camry and buying a civic. Just kidding, that car will never leave me for a long time but I am building an AE86 Corolla now as my weekend fun car so stay tuned for that!

Here is what was left of second gear after my 5SFTE ate it for lunch (Who needs a dyno, I know it makes more power now cause it didnt do that before!)

A view inside the S51 tranny after my 5SFTE bitch slapped it, way too much going on in there it makes my head hurt;

Here is what the spark plugs all looked like before I tuned, a little lean mabe but then again the stock plugs looked just like this:

Midway through replacing the tranny with a new 2001 S51 with 23k miles,


To all the guys thinking about doing this I hope this will help inspire you just like wraith, tony, nate, and everyone inspired me. Build the car the way you want and dont let anyone tell you what you SHOULD do do what you WANT to do, you drive the car not them. Turbo is a hard route to go but it is there if you want it bad enough and I didnt break the bank to get there. You gotta sift through a lot of BS to get to the real truth thats something I learned the hard way, I spent $3400 to go from an automatic stock motor to turbo 5 speed. It may be easier to build a Honda but turbo Civics are a dime a dozen. Follow the easy well traveled path if you like and you will have the same car many do and no one will remember you. Follow the harder route and people will notice.
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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saaaaawwwwwweeeeeeeet man! Congrats on getting all done up - front end looks really good with the FMIC

Pretty much a night and day differnce on the 5s pickup you know


you gotta change your images to [img], not <img> also so they will show - great pics

*EDIT* i see they are fixed
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saaaaawwwwwweeeeeeeet man! Congrats on getting all done up - front end looks really good with the FMIC

Pretty much a night and day differnce on the 5s pickup you know


you gotta change your images to [img], not <img> also so they will show - great pics

*EDIT* i see they are fixed
Thanks man yeah believe it or not I did notice a little difference in the pickup, it seems a bit faster but mabe its my imagination. I am really tired right now though I put up the images and went d'oh!
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Old 07-19-2006, 01:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Congrats man, looks real good... I like the front end with the FMIC... Just need those TRD lips to complete that front end now!
Thanks but I really cant wait to see your new setup! My initial hot side charge pipe needs to be redone but my buddy's TIG is down at the moment so it will be awhile before we can make an all aluminum welded one piece pipe. For now worm gear clamps and ghetto piping owns me! I would love a TRD bodykit but I can never find one...
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That's some awsome work. Congrats man!! It's nice to finally see it finished. Get some dyno numbers up when you can.
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Looks great! I really like the FMIC peaking behind the front bumper... The turbo setup also looks really clean and I can see the time and effort on the "small touches" to keep everything looking perfect

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Since the car is OBD2 it will automatically retard timing when it senses knock.
I must comment on that though, do not expect your factory knock sensor and ECU help with possible knock. Knock voltages increases with cylinder pressures (to a certain extent) and RPM, so by adding boost to your engine now, your entire knock voltage curve would be higher. Expect the stock ECU to pull timing even if the engine is not knocking, but also expect the ECU to do nothing much to save your motor under severe detonation. It is better to seek timing management and pull timing along with boost to prevent ECU from "butting in" and causing all sorts of funky stuff.
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Very nice. Good to see yet another complete a turbo setup.
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wow man great job! thats alot of work you put in, awesome
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looks awesome, congrats on getting out there and doing it! you are one of few now man, great job
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I must comment on that though, do not expect your factory knock sensor and ECU help with possible knock. Knock voltages increases with cylinder pressures (to a certain extent) and RPM, so by adding boost to your engine now, your entire knock voltage curve would be higher. Expect the stock ECU to pull timing even if the engine is not knocking, but also expect the ECU to do nothing much to save your motor under severe detonation. It is better to seek timing management and pull timing along with boost to prevent ECU from "butting in" and causing all sorts of funky stuff.
Yeah I was thinking about that, the problem is that since the ignition is distributorless wasted spark with the igniter incorporated in the coil there is no way to externally modify timing short of full standalone. The MSD techs told me they have nothing to help me so I kinda gave up. I even bought an Apexi ITC but it was not able to work with the ignition so I also had to give up on that. I am considering swapping to an older distributor based head and ecu to run it but thats a lot of wiring!
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great job. requesting some videos after your break in period... if you could because i've never seen a turbo gen4 in action.

oh and i don't wanna be an a$$/letdown but just curious ever since what happened to redphoenix in april, do you have a fire extinguisher in the car?

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great job. requesting some videos after your break in period... if you could because i've never seen a turbo gen4 in action.

oh and i don't wanna be an a$$/letdown but just curious ever since what happened to redphoenix in april, do you have a fire extinguisher in the car?

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Yeah my mom asked me the other day where all her fire extinguishers were, I was like two in the garage and the big one in my back seat! I even drove around with no hood for a few days so I could see if there were flames under the hood! I Dont have a digital video camera now but when I get back to school this August my room mate does so videos will be up for sure!
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Yeah I was thinking about that, the problem is that since the ignition is distributorless wasted spark with the igniter incorporated in the coil there is no way to externally modify timing short of full standalone. The MSD techs told me they have nothing to help me so I kinda gave up. I even bought an Apexi ITC but it was not able to work with the ignition so I also had to give up on that. I am considering swapping to an older distributor based head and ecu to run it but thats a lot of wiring!
Damn, that limits you to almost no timing management available.... You can resort to switching out the coil packs (no built-in ignitor) and run an external ignitor so at least you can run the MSD and won't have to run a standalone; but you will have to shop around for coil packs that would fit the head/valvecover. Or the other option which is a bit ghetto is to modify the crank trigger sensor location to have the base timing retarded 1 or 2 deg across the entire ignition map. Either way, good luck, and keep us updated with videos
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