Please tell me if my wiring is burnt or what. - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

RayRaymond · 04-09-2003, 01:32 AM

Hi, after installing the H4 Hella 6000k HID kit.

after a week, the left side can't be turned on. no matter high beam or low beam

I switch the bulb using the right side to see if it is the ballast problem or bulb problem. it seems that both ballasts and both bulbs works. but when i connect (driver side) them together it just won't turn on.

I also used a halogen bulb to try the wiring. The halogen can't be turned on low beam either, high beam is ok..

does this mean the wiring is burnt?

I don't see any melting on the wiring. The wire looks perfect, the wiring from the car, not the ballast wire(wires on ballast is fine too).

what i mean is low beam on driver side is not working on HID bulb and halogen bulb. High beam is fine. not a bulb problem

so is it the wiring problem?

SKYravefever · 04-09-2003, 03:13 AM

Could be the low-beam wire was fried. Look at the H4 socket. The socket has 3 wires, one for ground, one for low, and one of high, arranged like this |--| (well sort of). Refer to this thread for wiring configuration:

http://www.toyotanation.com/showthre...threadid=14992

Bigshoguns · 04-09-2003, 11:40 AM

Did u upgrade ur fuse when u installed them.. this COULD(lol luc j/k) have caused it.

[on my Hanabi one one of the Ballasted burned out that's y i got Hella. ]

If this dont fix the prob. u need to get a Relay kit. which is not hard to find and are cheap. i sold mine to my friend who was toooooo lazy to take a trip to pepboys or R and S. he gave me 70 for it and to install it. installlaion aint hard either.

RayRaymond · 04-09-2003, 03:18 PM

i didn't change fuse either.

the socket looks perfectly fine, not melting symptom.

what should i do...

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the right top one is low beam, not working, now i connect the high beam which is the left (also the ground on the right)

Bigshoguns · 04-09-2003, 06:10 PM

Rite this could have caused your low beam to burn out. Reason being. the fuse cant handle and instead of the fuse burning out the harness did. the fuse read enuff power but the harness couldn't handle it. i know it sounds funny and wrong, but this happend to my car, but instead of the harness or fuse blowing out, my Ballast did. But im sure theres probably a more correct xplation to it.

the only reason i say mine is somewhat correct is b/c when u get the Hyperwhite bulb the 100watt piaa or B2hybrid the harness bur out b/c the bulb get tooo hot, but the fuse dont. so maybe.

another question. What kinda Kit do u have.PIC's if posible.. b/c i have a D2s kit and it's a Bytch to retro fit so i gor X5 projectors. please let me know how u got H4.

SKYravefever · 04-09-2003, 06:20 PM

Bigshoguns: I believe he got the single beam kit, but correct me if I'm wrong. Chances are good that they're D2R capsules rebased to fit a H4 socket.

RayRaymond: Try using a voltometer (or however, u spell it) and see if you get any currect from the low-beam part of the socket.

Bigshoguns · 04-09-2003, 11:19 PM

SKYravefever, u are correct, but just wondering from were or how he mad em, etc. All hid's are Single Beam the only ones that are dual are BiXenon and (correct me if im wrong) but Bixenon is not a dual beam bulb, but just the projector or Reflector have a lens that moves to generate the the low and hi beam effect.

RayRaymond try the Voltagemeter and see or use a regular h4 bulb. not sure if u did troubleshoot it with it?!?!

let me know the h4 bulb situation about ur hid kit. still amazed and get's me thinking..

SKYravefever · 04-09-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Bigshoguns
SKYravefever, u are correct, but just wondering from were or how he mad em, etc. All hid's are Single Beam the only ones that are dual are BiXenon and (correct me if im wrong) but Bixenon is not a dual beam bulb, but just the projector or Reflector have a lens that moves to generate the the low and hi beam effect.

RayRaymond try the Voltagemeter and see or use a regular h4 bulb. not sure if u did troubleshoot it with it?!?!

let me know the h4 bulb situation about ur hid kit. still amazed and get's me thinking..

In addition to servo motors, aftermarket makers have made sockets that push the HID capsule forward and backward, displacing the focal point. Servo motors are the only type that I've seen in OEM applications.

I don't think the stock reflectors will make a good pattern, the cutoff and pattern's pretty bad with halogens.

RayRaymond · 04-10-2003, 01:34 AM

i have a HELLA H4 6000k HID kit from misterjung.com

it is a D2S capsule. only low beam.

I don't have a voltameter. can't test it with my finger either.
:p

i used a halogen to test already, still no low beam show.

RayRaymond · 04-11-2003, 01:12 PM

now i have another qusetion, in case this already burnt my low beam wire. WIll this burn my high beam wire too? cuz now i am using the high beam wire to powerup the low beam

??

should i keep it this way? i am sure the fuse didn't burn, if the fuse didn't burn what does this mean? the current draw is fine?
i don't know .. i am

skperformance · 04-11-2003, 01:37 PM

you say neither high or low beam work on that side
try looking at teh ground wire
hid's are weird they like a very good ground otherwise they turn off
the head beams like the wipers and a few other components use relays as the main protection the fues is just extra for suppliing the system
try switching the left and right relay in the engine bay

i don;t think you mentioned which car you have or year
but take a look at teh relay

RayRaymond · 04-12-2003, 05:48 PM

my car is a 99' Toyota Camry

i am just wondering will this (burning wire) happen to my high beam cuz now i use the high beam power to powerup the low beam.

skperformance · 04-12-2003, 09:45 PM

i wouldn't band aid the system by bypassing just to get it working that can lead to more damage being done
try to find the cause
like checking the relay
now doe the high beam work on either side
and just low on one
or is one side have both the low and high beam out

SKYravefever · 04-13-2003, 03:54 PM

That is not a permanent fix. Just get an upgraded wiring harness for your HIDs from www.suvlights.com. I doubt Mr. Jung provided one since his kits are pretty rough, and service is

.

But in the long haul, you'll need that wiring harness with relays to keep your current headlamp harness in half-decent shape.

skperformance · 04-13-2003, 08:27 PM

for hid 's you don't need a seperate harness to run relays
what you do need is to make a very short solid ground for the ballasts
use one of the screws on the side with a o connector and another one to ground to the body do that and they will work perfect

this rectifies the not turning on , or shutting off at start
also sometimes not turning on or staying on unless repeatedly turning off the sytem off and on