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Old 05-15-2003, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tranny swap questions

Which auto tranny(s) (if any other than stock A140E) would drop right in on a '96 Camry 5S-FE?

I ask because although mine is running great right now, I am worried that someday it will give up with the added power of the turbo. Just curious to know what my options are at that point - is rebuild the only option?

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Old 05-15-2003, 10:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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give level ten a call i heard they make great auto tranny.
http://levelten.com/
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Yeah, I've heard good things about Level10...not cheap, but really good.

I was curious about other Toyota trannys...are there any others that are stronger that will bolt right in?
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If you look on the Hybrid forums on the MR2 Board, you will find lots of info. I know that you can put the 3SGTE turbo tranny (E153) on the non-turbo engine (5SFE) so through logical reasoning, the E153 (heavy duty) should bolt up to the 5SFE.

Im like 95% sure it will.
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5% can still fu#% you up.:p won't a manual tranny hold up alot more than a auto? if you ratko is your man! yea, buying a levelten is alot of money but I also heard that if they just rebuild your old one it will be have the cost.
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Best bet is to trace the stud locations on your auto tranny, or block, and compare them to a E153 tranny or 3SGTE/1MZFE block, whatever, and see how it lines up.

Levelten is expensive... for the money you can source a used manual tranny and rebuild it with new synchros and probably even an LSD depending on how far you go with the auto tranny buildup. Just remember, its still an auto tranny, and its only as strong as its weakest parts.
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Best bet is to trace the stud locations on your auto tranny, or block, and compare them to a E153 tranny or 3SGTE/1MZFE block, whatever, and see how it lines up.
The problem would be finding a 3sgte lying around to match it up with. I do have a 5S block sitting in my garage!

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Levelten is expensive... for the money you can source a used manual tranny and rebuild it with new synchros and probably even an LSD depending on how far you go with the auto tranny buildup. Just remember, its still an auto tranny, and its only as strong as its weakest parts.
Well, that's true with many things (as strong as the weakest link). I have heard that auto trannys are stronger than manual. Have you ever heard that as well?
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The problem would be finding a 3sgte lying around to match it up with. I do have a 5S block sitting in my garage!



Well, that's true with many things (as strong as the weakest link). I have heard that auto trannys are stronger than manual. Have you ever heard that as well?
That always depends on the scenario. Perhaps in the domestic world, or other car manufacturers there might be cases where the automatic trannies are stronger, but I know that at least for V6 Toyotas and 3SGTEs, the E153 in stock form can handle at LEAST 500hp easy without breaking, and usually at that point its the axles, cv joints, clutch, etc, that fail first. The stock V6 auto tranny (which for the sake of argument lets say is stronger than the I4 auto tranny), can handle, give or take, about 270lb/ft of torque before things begin to get hot (literally).
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Didn't the DX model camry cam with a manual tranny? I forgot where I read up before but the 3s-gte will bolt on the 5sfe but there will be alot of fabrication for the mounts. i think it was wraith.
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Didn't the DX model camry cam with a manual tranny? I forgot where I read up before but the 3s-gte will bolt on the 5sfe but there will be alot of fabrication for the mounts. i think it was wraith.
you dont need to fabricate mounts ...just use solara V6 tranny mounts. But you have to find a E153 tranny with the holes for the tranny mount. I suggest using a V6 Solara tranny. It should bolt up... I mean the e153 trans and the solara tranny are the same...
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you dont need to fabricate mounts ...just use solara V6 tranny mounts. But you have to find a E153 tranny with the holes for the tranny mount. I suggest using a V6 Solara tranny. It should bolt up... I mean the e153 trans and the solara tranny are the same...
So are you saying that the auto tranny from a v6 Solara would bolt right in using the mounts from the Soalra as well or the Camry mounts? I don't necessarily want to convert to manual. Would it fit right in electrically?

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i'm interested in knowing which AUTO tranny's bolt up in place of the stock one. hehe everyone keeps giving info on the manuals but i haven't heard anything yet on the AUTOs.
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So are you saying that the auto tranny from a v6 Solara would bolt right in using the mounts from the Soalra as well or the Camry mounts? I don't necessarily want to convert to manual. Would it fit right in electrically?

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no... The e153 is the manual V6 Solara/Camry... To use the e153 5speed from the MR2 all you need to fit it into the Gen 3 fram/body all you would need to bolt it up is the solara V6 tranny mount... Just as long as you have a tranny with the bolt holes the line up with the e153...
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The E153 will bolt up fine to the 5SFE.
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No, I understand the E153 will bolt up. What I am trying to get at is which auto trannies will fit.

No one knows this off the top of their head?
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