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Old 12-02-2006, 03:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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99 camry alignment

i just got some new tires installed in my 99 camry le,so everytime i'll let go of the steering wheel the car would go to the right

the other day i went in firestone to fix the problem and when they finished the car still would go the right.

now my questions are

how long does an aligment takes to fix?

are they supposed to give you a paper stating how bad was the alignment?
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How long? Alignments don't "settle in" so it should have been fixed immediately.

Every alignment shop I've been to gives me a sheet that shows the before/after alignment values.
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How long? Alignments don't "settle in" so it should have been fixed immediately.

Every alignment shop I've been to gives me a sheet that shows the before/after alignment values.
they dint give me a • print out initial alignment readings sheet or nothing ,they just gave me the warranty paper

is normal for a car to go the right if u let got the steering wheel?
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No that's not right. There are things that will cause your steering to be outta whack even with a perfect alignment though, like unevenly worn tires, a worn strut mount, broken spring (yes I actually had this). Go back to them and ask if they can print out a data sheet for you so that you can see for yourself exactly what the camber/toe/caster settings are if you can. They should also be able to narrow down the source of your steering trouble if you ask them to, considering it's part of an alignment and they need to honor their work.
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No that's not right. There are things that will cause your steering to be outta whack even with a perfect alignment though, like unevenly worn tires, a worn strut mount, broken spring (yes I actually had this). Go back to them and ask if they can print out a data sheet for you so that you can see for yourself exactly what the camber/toe/caster settings are if you can. They should also be able to narrow down the source of your steering trouble if you ask them to, considering it's part of an alignment and they need to honor their work.
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The tires, even when new, can cause a pull. Try switching the two front tires and see if the pull moves to the left side. If so, the tire now on the left is defective.

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Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I was always told that cars should pull slightly to the right. Safety reasons as in say you fall asleep at the wheel, would it be better to veer left into oncoming traffic, or veer right, essentially off the road. Now I know neither is the greatest scenario, but pull to the right can possibly lessen injuries, at least to other people, in situations like that. I dunno though.
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Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I was always told that cars should pull slightly to the right. Safety reasons as in say you fall asleep at the wheel, would it be better to veer left into oncoming traffic, or veer right, essentially off the road. Now I know neither is the greatest scenario, but pull to the right can possibly lessen injuries, at least to other people, in situations like that. I dunno though.

Cars should not pull at all, in either direction.

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try going onto the freeway or something and let off the gas dont let go of the wheel with your foot on the gas, your car will vere to the right because only the right wheel is powered.( no lsd )
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try going onto the freeway or something and let off the gas dont let go of the wheel with your foot on the gas, your car will vere to the right because only the right wheel is powered.( no lsd )
... say again? Ours cars are now one wheel drive? What do you mean going on the freeway or "something"? Let me get this straight. You let your foot off the gas and your right wheel is still "powered"? Powered by what? Certainly not your engine since you let your foot off the gas.

Oh wait no you mean "let off the gas" but somehow keep "your foot on the gas". Ok...

What does having/not having an LSD have anything to do with a car's ability to go straight on the freeway? Do you even know what an LSD does?
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... say again? Ours cars are now one wheel drive? What do you mean going on the freeway or "something"? Let me get this straight. You let your foot off the gas and your right wheel is still "powered"? Powered by what? Certainly not your engine since you let your foot off the gas.

Oh wait no you mean "let off the gas" but somehow keep "your foot on the gas". Ok...

What does having/not having an LSD have anything to do with a car's ability to go straight on the freeway? Do you even know what an LSD does?
here ill explain... if you were to do a burnout in you camry for example, and then you were to go back and look, there is only going to be one tire mark. your front right wheel is the wheel that puts down power, the left wheel spins basically unpowered like your back wheels. So im saying to drive down a road and let off the gas and let go of the wheel, because if you let go of the wheel with your foot on the gas its going to vere slightly right due to the fact that its being pulled by the powered wheel. what lsd does is basically link across power to the left front wheel so both wheels are now powered. got it ?

im not saying you need to get lsd, im just saying cars will slightly vere towards there powered wheel on fwds.
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Your car does not apply uneven power to your front wheels. Actually, because you have an open diff, the torque that is applied to the left and right wheels are even.

The reason you possibly get one wheel that lays a strip of rubber at a launch from a stop is because of torque steer, which is caused by uneven half shafts. If you apply excessive torque, the longer half shaft flexes more than the shorter half shaft, and the result is that one wheel momentarily spins slower than the other, leading to its inability to lay down rubber. One way that a helical LSD mitigates this problem is by biasing torque towards the wheel with more grip.

At freeway speed, there is no way you would be overloading your half shafts, and you're not in a situation where you've lost grip in one wheel versus the other, so you cannot be experiencing torque steer. Therefore, your analogy of one wheel spinning faster than another (which you incorrectly associated with more power) doesn't even apply.

If you let off on your driving wheel without letting off the gas and your car veers right, it's because your alignment is off or because the road is tilted, as is oftentimes the case on many highways.

By the way, even if your car heavily biased its power to one wheel, you would still go straight. The only way that your car would not go straight (other than having a messed up alignment) is for one wheel to spin faster than another. That can only be the case if one wheel has lost grip or... if you're going through a corner (obviously).
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