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Kooter · 07-08-2003, 11:57 AM

Will the new 3.3 liter V6 engine be made available in the '04 Camry? I'll be ordering a '04 Camry XLE with a V6 but I want to make sure I'll be getting the new 3.3 liter engine. My dealer can't tell me for sure yet but it would appear that all Toyota cars, including Lexus, equipped with a V6 will have the new engine. Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks!

Kooter

Daffunda · 07-08-2003, 04:33 PM

can you please do a search before you ask. This question was raised way too many times.

thanks.

Kooter · 07-08-2003, 06:51 PM

Sorry, but I did try searching and saw a few threads discussing the new 3.3 engine but I never read where it was definite the new engine would be available in the '04 Camry. Maybe you will be kind enough to offer a link to the thread. Thanks!

Kooter

Kooter · 07-08-2003, 07:18 PM

Daffunda, maybe this is the thread you're talking about that I should read to find out about the new 3.3 liter engine being available in the '04 Camry: http://www.toyotanation.com/showthre...ghlight=3.3%2A

No one, including yourself (who posted in the above linked thread) is certain if the new 3.3 liter engine will be available in the Camry.

I know the new 3.3 liter engine will be in the '04 Solara as well as Toyota's Mini-vans. And will be in the Lexus ES300 and RX330. It only stands to reason it should be available in the '04 Camry too but I would like to know for sure "if" anyone has definite information about it. I'm trying to get confirmation myself (through my dealer) from the East Coast Toyota Port but haven't heard back yet.

Also, before ordering I would like to know what all the options are for the '04 Camry just in case their are some new ones I may be interested in.

Kooter

Kooter · 07-08-2003, 08:00 PM

Here is an article I found saying the new 3.3 liter V6 will be in the '04 Solara: http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow...9/page013.html

I can't imagine Toyota would keep the 3.0 liter engine in their line and offer two different V6 engines...

2004 Toyota Camry Solara

What Is It?
2004 Toyota Camry Solara

"What's Special About It?
Toyota is especially proud of the fact that the new second-generation Solara was conceived, designed and will be built in the United States at its plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. This cut the development time to 19 months, a company record. The new coupe is more refined, more powerful, larger and sportier. We say keep churning 'em out at that rate because this new version of the popular Solara, which was first introduced as a 1998 model, is great-looking. And its specifications are promising. The featured power plant is an all-new 3.3-liter V6 that generates 225 horsepower and 240 pound-feet of torque at 3,600 rpm — that's 27 more ponies and 28 more lb-ft than the current model. There will also be a 2.4-liter, four-cylinder engine that produces 157 hp and 162 lb-ft available.

The extra power of the new V6 will be handled by the new performance-tuned suspension — Toyota repositioned and recalibrated every mounting and pivot point on the suspension, added specially tuned struts and new front and rear springs. It claims the result is better ride quality, less body roll and pitch, better feel and increased response."

Kooter

***EKam*** · 07-08-2003, 08:28 PM

I don't think the 3.3L will make it to 2004 Camry.

Since Lexus ES300 uses that engine now, they would want to differentiate with Camry so people would actually think of getting a Lexus instead.

Can't really relate it to Solara since Solara is 2-door - there isn't a close similiarity of a Lexus to match that.

Kooter · 07-08-2003, 08:40 PM

Thanks for your opinion. I know the '04 Min-vans will also be using the new 3.3 liter V6 engine. It would appear from an assembly-line and inventory standpoint Toyota would want to discontinue the 3.0 V6 engine and use only one V6, that being the new 3.3 V6 engine. However you may be right that the '04 V6 Camry will continue to have the 3.0 liter engine. I certainly wish I could get confirmation from a reliable source.

Kooter

Kooter · 07-08-2003, 09:04 PM

I found this which is interesting:

News:
(7/1/03) An update to the rumored new V6 3.3L from Toyota. It's been confirmed that the new engine (based on the 1MZ-FE all-aluminum engine from Camry/Sienna/ES300/RX300) is called 3MZ-FE. Various pictures are already available on the net from the introduction of the 2003 Sienna/RX330 in various auto shows in the US. HP/Torque figure on the Sienna/Lexus RX is 230/240 with VVT-i and the Camry *might* get more HP than those two vehicles.

Dickson
TTCC Webmaster

Link to above article: http://www.tt-cc.com/index2.htm

Kooter

VVT-i Owns · 07-08-2003, 11:30 PM

I don't think that 3.3L will be available. Mainly because they have just phased in the 1MZ with VVT-i plus the 5 speed tranny? Why would they waste money and phase this out so quickly?

Hopefully for the next gen camry toytoa will have a all new engine. 3300 CC is too big for my liking.

woshiagni · 07-09-2003, 12:29 AM

I just wanted to point out that just because the ES has a certain engine does not necessarily mean the Camry will also have the same engine.

For example, when the ES 300 switched from the 200 hp non-vvti 1mz-fe to the 210 hp vvti 1mz-fe in 1999, the camry kept the 192 hp non-vvti motor until 2002.

Good luck shopping for your 04.

Daffunda · 07-09-2003, 03:05 PM

ah.. I missed that point. If camry gets the 3.3, it would be even closer to the ES330, and people buying ES330 would be just morons, because they would have the same engine, tranny, chassis, etc. Obviously like mentioned before in this thread, Toyota would want to differentiate between the two.

Kooter · 07-09-2003, 06:56 PM

Well. here's the scoop from what I believe is a reliable source that just returned from the Toyota port in Jacksonville, Florida.

The new 3.3 liter V6 VVT-i engine will be in the '04 Solara, Camry SE, Highlander, Avalon and mini-vans. The new engine will also be used in the new Lexus ES330 and RX330 as expected. The Camry with V6 engines (except SE model) will continue to receive the 3.0 liter VVT-i until the current inventory is depleted. It is thought the inventory of 3.0 liter VVT-i engines will last through approximately mid-year.

I was also told the '04 Camry V6 would have a 5-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with intelligence (ECT-i), like the '03 Lexus ES300 uses.

Oh well, I was really looking forward to getting the new 3.3 liter V6 engine with higher horsepower and torque but I'll have to be satisfied with the 3.0 VVT-i engine unless I want to wait. And I don't want to wait!

Kooter

***EKam*** · 07-09-2003, 07:01 PM

Either way, 3.0L VVT-i is still a safe bet.

Not many of us are lucky enough have this engine in our Camry (not to mention millions of 4-cyl owners out there), on very few here do. (Less than a hand full)

woshiagni · 07-09-2003, 07:03 PM

Buy the SE model then. =)

Kooter · 07-09-2003, 10:22 PM

Yeah, I guess I could get the SE but I want the luxury features offered in the XLE. I think the 3.0 liter VVT-i engine will do fine for a Camry. I just sold my '99 BMW M3 and I'm looking for a larger, softer ride for a while...but still want a little power under the hood. I used to have a Gen 4 ('97 Camry) XLE V6, which I really liked and thought Id try a new one.

Kooter

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Originally posted by woshiagni
Buy the SE model then. =)