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OK ppl i want all u guyz to speak the truth here.. With 26Gz....WHo will win in a race.. a Gen5 TOyota Camry V6 w/ TRD supercharger or a HOnda Accord V6 04' model (240hp). my friend bought himself a brand spanking new Accord for 26Gz and my other friend bought himself a 03 Camry Le V6 for 21Gz out the door.. and i dunno how it started but we started talking shit to each other saying whos car is better and i came in and said that with the extra 5Gz the camry could of gotten a TRD supercharger and spank the accord lefted and right...so am i wrong>>???
it depends. If the accord is an auto, then the performance is about the same, considering that you're talking about the VVTi. If Accord is a 6speed, then there is no chance, Accord beats Camry hands down. 0-60 time for Camry V6 VVT-i is about 7.8-7.9, (maybe faster with premium?) while the accord auto V6 is about 7.5-7.6. The 6speed is in the 6 second range though.
If you put a supercharger on it, then I guess it would beat an accord, but still not the 6speed.
Here's a non-scientific comparison point: a few years ago, I took a brief, and now deeply regretted detour into GM ownership. I had a factory supercharged Buick Regal GS. This car comes with a 4-spd auto (of course) and its version of the dinosaur pushrod 3.8L V-6 puts out 240 hp and 280 ft-lb of torque. The car is a couple hundred pounds heavier than either the Camry or the Accord. Also, the gearing strategy, incl the final drive, differs from the Japanese approach. All that said, this car did 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. Not bad for a lard-butt Buick. With the Camrys, the engine output is of course dependent upon how aggressively the owner sets it up. I suspect that a well-blown Camry with sticky tires is going to pose a real, perhaps unbeatable, challenge to an unblown V-6 Accord, even a 6-spd. Although the new Accord does make 240hp, it only generates 212 ft-lbs of torque, and at an absurdly high 5000 rpm peak. The current stock CAmry puts out 220 ft-lb, at 600 rpms lower. You can bet that the S/C version is going to be generating a lot more torque, and at much lower rpms. If such a car's power and torque approach, or even exceed the conservative Buick's, then with the lighter weight, you've got an Accord killer. Remember, it's the torque that shoots you off the line and wins acceleration contests.
The Honda needs the 6 speed to keep in its sweet spot but with F/I you are making *significant* torque from 3500 RPM up. That's why the Subbies and EVo's are so much more 'driveable' than the likes of the S2000 and the Toyota GTS. My bet is on the SC. If you can't find an SC VVTI V6 to do it send the honda over to Calgary next month and I will do it with my toyota SC I4 without VVTI.
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maybe all the info above is irrelevant since i am learning, but the way i see it, the camry and the 6 would be almost the same, where as the accord would have the upper hand. however, if you were comparing the V6s then i think the accord will kill everything again and the 6 will beat the camry.
Originally posted by aznsclboi I was under the impression that the TRD supercharger doesn't fit on the 2002 V6 Camry. Are you talking about an aftermarket Supercharger?
Theoretically the TRD supercharger will fit the v6s without with vvti. It won't work on the v6 with vvti though.
Originally posted by TypeRex187 really?!....mmm so what years of the 1Mz-Fe motors that doesn't have VvT-i? and why wouldn't the supercharger work witht he VVt-i...?
From my knowledge, about midyear in the 2003 Camry V6 series, the engine became a VVT-i. Before then, No VVT-I, I got my 2002 SE V6 before the change over… No VVT-I for me, but I held out hope that the TRD supercharger from the 2001 would work.
In theory, they should be totally compatible, as the 1MZ-FE engines are nearly identical except for the placement of a few things under the hood. For some reason, I don't know what, maybe someone on the forum can who is familiar with the 2001 Camry 1MZ-FE V6 and 2002 Camry 1MZ-FE V6 can tell us what the difference really is?
Strange thing, I talked to a person at Toyota of Seattle, my local dealer, about 4 months ago and the parts person told me that someone at TRD had a supercharger prototype for the 2002 Camry V6, I CANNOT confirm it, though if they did; I doubt they would produce it. The Non-VVT-i Gen5 Camry was only produced for one year, not enough market for it.
Originally posted by aznsclboi
Strange thing, I talked to a person at Toyota of Seattle, my local dealer, about 4 months ago and the parts person told me that someone at TRD had a supercharger prototype for the 2002 Camry V6, I CANNOT confirm it, though if they did; I doubt they would produce it. The Non-VVT-i Gen5 Camry was only produced for one year, not enough market for it.
I think they're talking about the one with vvti. They're making superchargers for all the vvti engines now like the 1zz-fe. Hopefully it'll be as good as the one for the non vvti 1mzfe
Originally posted by fungke any idea how much it would probably cost for the VVT-i version?
to my understanding...the VVT-i version is about $600 correct?
There is no vvti version. According to the other post they're prototyping one. A 1mz-fe supercharger now costs more than 2k, so don't expect a cheap product.
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