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The 3mz-fe 3.3 liter v6 in the 05 camrys and solaras has a flyby wire throttle connection, (meaning there is no throttle cable, there is a sensor under the pedal and on the engine correct?) Can someone explain this more thoroughly?
And is there a way to convert the engine to just a simple throttle cable? ( By possibly using the throttle body off a 1mz-fe? and running a throttle cable to it?)
Please respond if you have any helpful information on this subject. Thanks!
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I dont know the answer, wish i did. I wanna comment on it though, and that comment is - WHY? Why did toyota choose to redesign and replace a simple, cheap, and dead-reliable cable with this complicated garbage? It is bound to cause nothing but problems, as many posts here are already saying - and now they are making transmissions with no filler tube or dipstick and designing in all sorts of other trouble-prone crap. Hell's bells jack, if i wanted designed in defects i'd have bought a ford. If they keep it up, im defecting to another brand for my next car, probably Nissan or Honda.
marc, you do realize ALL the cars now are getting this, right? the Nissan Versa has steer by wire as well.
I think they will go through their phase, much like variable valve timing and other bad ideas that never made it, and then they will go back to the reliable stuff. Steering by wire, throttle by wire, why are they inventing stupid, expensive, complicated solutions for non-existent problems? I think this sh^t is just put on the car to break at 100,000 miles and make you buy another car. Laugh if you want, but i wonder if i will still be reading this forum in 3 or 4 years when the posts start coming in about the problems with drive/throttle-by-wire that are guaranteed/designed to happen, the minute these cars are out of warranty.
Its DRIVE-by-wire. And what do you mean convert the car itself?
I have yet to hear of any cars that have had any problems arising from DBW systems. My car has 81k miles on it, and I've never had a single problem with it. Like Peter said, I know guys with early 90s Bimmers with DBWs and they too have never had a problem. Seriously, there is nothing bad about DBW.
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Its DRIVE-by-wire. And what do you mean convert the car itself?
I have yet to hear of any cars that have had any problems arising from DBW systems. My car has 81k miles on it, and I've never had a single problem with it. Like Peter said, I know guys with early 90s Bimmers with DBWs and they too have never had a problem. Seriously, there is nothing bad about DBW.
I have a 30k miles 3mz-fe sitting in my garage to drop into my 98 camry 5 spd, what do i need to do in order to wire an originally throttle cabled car, to a Drive by wire setup?
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Its DRIVE-by-wire. And what do you mean convert the car itself?
WTF dude...it's ETC - electronic throttle control. The brakes and steering are still mechanically controlled (for now at least). Automatic transmissions are now generally electronic control but when have you ever really had control on an automatic but manual transmissions are still mechanically controlled unless you have a SMG or DSG. So for now it's not drive-by-wire yet. I'll be happy as long as all these functions are still analog unlike the feedback-less digital HVAC controls that some cars have adopted. I like being able to reach over, without looking over, and up the temperature or fan speed without having to look at the readout on a screen after pushing up and down keys.
I think maybe he wants to convert the car so that it doesn't use a throttle cable to a setup that is capable of using ETC. The gas pedal, certainly, must go and switch to the 6 wire setup for the electronic pedal. Probably the ECU needs to be changed too.
I have a 30k miles 3mz-fe sitting in my garage to drop into my 98 camry 5 spd, what do i need to do in order to wire an originally throttle cabled car, to a Drive by wire setup?
What you need are either 1. use your 1MZ head, so you will have a 3MZ/1MZ Hybrid... which has been done already by trd4life on his gen4 or 2. try looking for the Avalon/Es300 vvt-i 1MZ Dual throttle body and use that which has been done by Oteck on his MR2. Thank you.
NSX's came with drive-by-wire back in 1991....its nothing new....just something that has come into light recently....much in the same way airbags and heated seats were around in europe ten years before americans started to realize they were cool features
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I'll be happy as long as all these functions are still analog unlike the feedback-less digital HVAC controls that some cars have adopted. I like being able to reach over, without looking over, and up the temperature or fan speed without having to look at the readout on a screen after pushing up and down keys.
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