Can these run on ethanol?

[O.F.Fascist]

Can the newer Toyota vehicles run on straight ethanol, or some lower percentage blend?

Specifically I am going to be getting an '07 Camry, but I was also curious in general about other models or years.

[Toysrme]

No, and ethanol is the worst shit ever.

[DarkMastyr]

Except when it goes in me. Then it's all good.

[toyomoho]

Most new cars are designed to run on up to 10% ethanol blend with gasoline. Any more then this and the fuel system and engine required modifications. Alcohol is best left for drinking and race cars.

[marc780]

25 years ago i lived in Kansas and gasohol (also known as "E10" -about an 90/10 mixture of gas and alcohol) was sold at the pump right alongside the regular kind. There was no difference in performance or engine longevity.

Most cars made today could not run any higher concentration (E85), because the metals, hoses and seals in the engine won't stand up to it and might disintegrate. Since straight alcohol is corrosive for many of the parts in the engine, that's one of several reasons why we can't just all swap straight over by tomorrow.
In Brazil, their cars do run on straight alcohol but they are designed and built to use it. But considering the present Big-oil created mess, its probably worth a try here too.

(While on the subject - Ethanol (grain alcohol) is the kind you can drink, methanol (wood alcohol) the kind you can't -cause it is poisonous and will blind you - something to remember if you ever find yourself lost in an alcohol factory on a Saturday night . )

[Toysrme]

There's a differance. Gasohol is more detrimental to the fuel system over a long period of time, but there is a 4% performance hit when using it, and a 5-10% economy hit.

[toyomoho]

The feds mandate a little methanol be added to the ethanol prior to shipping to discourage theft.

[marc780]

Originally Posted by toyomoho

The feds mandate a little methanol be added to the ethanol prior to shipping to discourage theft.

Do, tell

[toyomoho]

When railroad cars shipping ethanol derail and leak, the added methanol makes the spill much more toxic.

[Pipemajor]

Originally Posted by toyomoho

The feds mandate a little methanol be added to the ethanol prior to shipping to discourage theft.

I think they did it to discourage human consumption.

Methanol is highly poisonous. My model airplanes run on methanol based fuels - the most basic is 80/20 methanol/castor oil.

[toyomoho]

And the avoidance of federal taxes on drinking alcohol by theft and resale. Still, a clean fuel now becomes a toxic mess when cars derail and leak.