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There have been several threads touching upon, and speculating about, the performance of the 3.3L V-6 equipped Camrys and Solaras. I just got a copy of the new issue of Road & Track, and discovered that they've got a short take report on the new Solara, with V-6. They are stating that they did 0-60 in 7.1 seconds. That seems pretty close to what some of us have predicted, and in line with what a car of that hp/tq, transmission, and weight should be doing.
The Solara is about 75 lb heavier and also has larger 17" rims with more inertial mass to spin up vs the Camry's lighter 16" rims. Lexus has now quoted 0-60 performance of 7.2s for the ES330, and the Camry is about 100-150 lb lighter than the ES, IIRC.
I think the Camry should be able to get to 60 in the high-6 range. That's what my CarTest2000 model for the car is saying that too.
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From the post STEVTEC made couple of weeks ago, 3.3 Camry does 6.58 0-60. 3.0 vvti 5spd has 6.86, thanks to the new 5spd. He used some software or something. Apparently the current VVTi V6 is not that slow.
Look in the forum "Gen5 - 2002+ Camry V6 Power?Power?"
The Accord V6 makes 240hp/212tq or 250hp/222tq depending on what kind of gas is in the tank, hence there are two models for the Accord V6.
Looking at time-to-distance columns...
The Accord V6 is in a different league than the non-VVTi Camry. Nuff said. I guess Toyota didn't have enough capacity on the VVT-i engine to ship Camry V6's with them in the first place.
The 2003.5 VVT-i with the 5spd auto can give them a good run up to about 60 mph though thanks to better low-end torque and more aggressive gearing than the Honda's 5spd auto unit. Above 60 mph though, the Accord's better top-end is kicking in and pulling. On the highway it's really no-contest unless the Accord gets stuck in a higher gear. The computer won't allow a downshift to 3rd above 90. I've taken out two of them this way in my 190-horse Maxima (5spd manual).
The one to get is the 2004 Camry SE with the 3.3L V6 (now confirmed by Toyota). It has 28 lb-ft more torque than the Honda and also more aggressive gearing. This should allow it to pull on the Accord V6 and stay in front all the way through any legal speeds in the US. Only beyond 80 will the Accord V6 really pull. The Accord will still edge out the 3.3L Camry in the 1/4 mile race due to much stronger performance in the last 1/8th mile, but at legal and real-world speeds the Toyota will give better overall performance due to the better torque. It just doesn't have the top-end legs that the Honda does.
Toyota resale is good. If you really want speed then I would seriously consider trading in your 2002 for the 2004 SE with the 3.3L and 5spd auto. It should be a very big difference, and you won't be getting run over by Honda's off the line in it either. Simple little things like K&N panels are just a drop in the bucket. TRD S/C, if still available and will work on the Gen5, would be your best bet for speed besides trading cars.
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Can somebody post the pic STEVTEC post, the server I use to upload images on is down right now.
Some people with the 3.0 VVT-i have said that the car doesn't seem to have the punch of a sub-7 0-60 car, but who knows. Butt dynos are not all that reliable. I have heard that the shift speed in the Cam is really slow and laggy, and that can make a big difference, and the simulation models just assume "normal" shift times. I take mag times like a grain of salt, and don't have any actual 1/4 mile timeslips from owners for correlation, so take these calculations for what they're worth. Just some insight as to what is theoretically possible.
Too many people get their panties in a bunch over this crap because it does not agree with their "golden" mag times (which are not be so golden), and especially Honda owners so now I have to start writing paragraph long disclaimers I guess.
I know if my car was totaled tommorrow, I would not want any other car then an '04 SE if I was to get another Camry. Other than that, I would get a Maxima.
It's sad when you've had your car for a year and a few months and are wanting more power
Originally posted by VVT-i Owns Labratory numbers do not necessarily reflect the numbers seen on the track. Temp and humidity can change times by 0.1s.
The simulations assume a standard temp and humidity, which I can adjust. A car running at 25F and 0% humidity would probably be a tad faster than the numbers above, and a car running in 90F 90% humidity would be a tad slower than the numbers above. Mags cannot control the weather when they test the cars, so that's a big part of why you see such huge variations in mag times.
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Originally posted by VVT-i Owns And why does the Solara weigh more than a camry.
Solara = 2dr less sturctural reinforcement??
Doesn't seem right
Probably because it has extra structural reinforcements in the frame and body built-in to accomodate the requirements for the convertible model.
0-60 times have to many varibles... i like looking at 1/4 times for performance comparisons....
i have a 5 spd 3vzfe and on car stats it says it does 7.7sec in the 60 test. compared to my friends prelude my car launches way faster... id say a car length for me at 60mph and his prelude listed 0-60 time is 6.8secs
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because it does not agree with their "golden" mag times (which are not be so golden), and especially Honda owners 
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