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Old 09-15-2003, 03:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question u think it's possible?

hey guys, probably not going to do this, or at least not soon, just bringing it up for some discussion.


I've got a gen2 2VZ and was wondering if it was very hard to drop a 5VZ-FE in tehre. I know it sounds like a dumb idea, but iw as ust wondering. I mean since they have so much torque, and they're truck engines. The problems i'm thinking is the tranny bolting up to it, and hood clearance. what do you guys think?
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i dont think its been done ever... in the truck, the 5vz is mounted the other way, going front to back. Im sure you could customize it to fit the other way... its all a metter of wether thee tranny from the 3vz will fit onto it. if you get a factory service manual for the tacoma that it comes in, you can learn all about that engine and then make a decision as to what to do.

you also may be able to do a head swap and make a hybrid engine... kinda like what some people are doing with the 5sfe and 3sgte making a 5sgte. if the block is the same with the 3vz and 5vz, you should be able to do that relatively easily, and even leave the engine in the car while you do it... but then again, i am not sure about that. you will have to find someone with a tacoma to check that out, and look at it very carefully. also, in the service manual they will have all kinds of measurements that you can compare with the 3vz...

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i've actually got a 2VZ, not a 3VZ, though i get your point. However, teh heads should be pretty similar, and probably won't give much of an advantage sinc ethey're both FE, right?
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heres the issue you are looking at... the 5vz is a transversely mounted engine (meaning it is for RWD vehicles). whereas the 2vz and 3vz are for FWD vehicles.

it is possible to use the head of a 3vz on the block of a 5vz. it is basically the same thing as a stroker kit. it increases the displacement of the engine, but then you are looking at a LOT of work to either convert the 5vz block to support FWD, or going all out with a RWD camry- which is possible with extensive (i cant stress this enough) MONEY!!!!.

bottom line is- you are better off stroking your 2vz/3vz to a 3.3L than doing a 5vz/[2/3]vz hybrid motor.

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i've actually got a 2VZ, not a 3VZ, though i get your point. However, teh heads should be pretty similar, and probably won't give much of an advantage sinc ethey're both FE, right?
the 3vz has a higher flow head than the 5vz- which is what ive heard from justin.

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none of the 4runners or tacoma's were ever FWD with a 5VZ?

can't think of any other trucks this was on.


BTW, i'm just wondering, i'm not actually gonna do this. unless of course, its' relatively cheap to do.
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none of the 4runners or tacoma's were ever FWD with a 5VZ?

can't think of any other trucks this was on.
the tundra too

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i was just thinking. not sure on this, but if the tranny were to bolt on, then one could keep their drivetrain, and it wouldn't matter that the 5VZ was built for rwd applications. right?
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definitely not... IF the block is the same, then the tranny would bolt on... IF the block is the same, then you can swap the heads and then rewire the ecu with the 5vz ecu and work together... old ecu for accessory functions, 5vz for critical engine functions. IF the block is the same, it would be a fairly easy swap...
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the valve pattern matches, but the block im sure is different

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