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finese1 · 10-29-2003, 07:48 PM

i have 2.2L 4 cyl engine and willing to go the limit with it. i just wanted a couple of suggestion to getting this engine over 400hp. Or getting the car over 400hp. all suggetions would be helpful

Warped · 10-29-2003, 11:42 PM

I don't think the 5s-fe can take that kind of power. If you want around 190, however, RIPPMODS has a kit that you might want to look into.

uluahunta · 10-30-2003, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by finese1
i have 2.2L 4 cyl engine and willing to go the limit with it. i just wanted a couple of suggestion to getting this engine over 400hp. Or getting the car over 400hp. all suggetions would be helpful

400hp hah if you need sugestions on getting more power then you dont need a camry with 400hp

crazy_camry · 10-30-2003, 03:29 AM

there was a 5s-fte MR2 up around that horsepower wasn't there?

Jzs147-RR · 10-30-2003, 06:33 AM

For that kind of HP you need forged internals/rods and pistons then you need arp head studs and main bolts.I would get the lower end cryo threated and balanced then it will hold a reliable 400hp.But remember it still wont rev well since these engine have a low redline.

Aussie Ed · 10-30-2003, 07:04 AM

i don't think you'll get traction with that sorta hp.

are you talking about 400hp at the fly or wheels????

i'll be happy to get about 250-270hp at the fly in my v6 camry when i turbo it and boost it up to about 8psi.

luisitol · 10-30-2003, 10:15 AM

finese1...If you have the means (i.e. the money and know-how) you will have no problem getting 400hp out of a 5sfe.

First you're going to need to bore out the block and buy some oversized pistons...i would suggest Arias Forged Pistons in a 9.5:1 CR Then get the head ported and polished, and get 1mm Super Alloy oversized intake valves and 2mm Super Alloy oversized exhaust valves from Ferrea Racing. Then get the webcam performance cams (your going to have to have the revlimiter removed or raised to really feel the benefit of the cams). Then i would have the heads and the valves sent to SwainTech Coatings and have them heat treat the combustion chambers and the valves, and might as well ge the pistons top-coated and the sideskirts poly-moly coated. Then nitrate and polish your crank and maybe chamfer ur oil passages (not necessary) and then have that all balanced and blueprinted. Have it reassembled with a metal head gasket, arp rod bolts, and arp head bolts.

Now you have to make a decision of whether or not you are going to need more than 14psi to get the power you want. If you need more thean 14psi you need to get an AEM standalone cuz with the 3sgte map sensor u'll only be able to boost 14psi, or 17psi if you instal or make your own FCD. Obviously you'll need a FMIC, IC piping, an upgraded CT26 with a 62-1 Trim wheel in it, ceramic coated turbine housing, 3" downpipe, ported and ceramic coated exh manifold, ported intake manifold. Good boost controller, upgraded ignition, etc.

Now you don't have to get ALL of that but if you want to go for high horsepower numbers y not be thorough about it.

Now to put that power to the wheels, thats gonna be a bitch. if you have an auto tranny just take it off and give it to Level Ten along with $3,200 and you will have an amazing bullet-proof tranny with a higher-stall torque converter, better synchros, better cooling, a shift kit, modifed shift points, crisper shifts, etc.

With a manual tranny you're gonna have to get a lighter flywheel, i would say a carbon single disck cluth, an LSD (not sure whats available) and some real sticky tires (i would suggest Nitto Drag Radials)

So basically what you need is a fairly large amount of money, patience cuz its going to take time, and general knowledge about your vehicle. If you have those things then you can do it.

Good Luck!

Pooter8D · 10-30-2003, 01:02 PM

heheh what can $5 get me??? i know a sticker can boost me up a few horsies.. but i want more!

kingoleer · 10-30-2003, 01:16 PM

Luisitol you are my hero! I've always wondered what I would need to do to get that kind of horsepower out of my engine and you've finally answered it!!! Thank you so much! Now I'm gonna get started on redoing my engine. Anyway in all honesty I will start looking into these things immediately and Ill keep you guys updated on my progress and again thanks Luisitol

luisitol · 10-30-2003, 04:00 PM

glad to be o f help....theres more stuff to add to that list but that'll come up when you get more into the project

djprefix · 10-30-2003, 04:05 PM

I'd say the easiest way would to port and polish everything (header, head and intake manifold), get a header, cold air intake, Totally rebuilt bottom end (Eagle H rods, JE pistons I say 10.5:1 compression or so, and get a forged crank), angle the head, get a new exhaust, and add a good shot of direct port nitrous; that'll should get you to at least 350. With a good built bottom end you should be able to handle a 200 shot of nitrous. Oh, and of course try to find a metal headgasket, I'm sure you can find one somewhere.

Pooter8D · 10-30-2003, 07:41 PM

do they sell manuals about engine work.. sorry.. am a noob to hardcore engine work so if i wanted to get into this.. how should i start?

djprefix · 10-30-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pooter8D
do they sell manuals about engine work.. sorry.. am a noob to hardcore engine work so if i wanted to get into this.. how should i start?

Yea, toyota sells the factory repair manual. You should probably start by reading up on how combustion engines work. I would suggest just finding people that know about cars and hanging out with them. My junior year of high school I didn't know shit, but hanging out with all my friends that built muscle car I learned everything that I know. Cruise a lot of forums too, I think I'm subscribed to about 20 :-/

luisitol · 10-30-2003, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Pooter8D
do they sell manuals about engine work.. sorry.. am a noob to hardcore engine work so if i wanted to get into this.. how should i start?

www.howstuffworks.com .... go to the automotive section and read EVERYTHING, you'll be there for days, maybe weeks depending on how much free time you have

Wraith · 11-01-2003, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by luisitol
finese1...If you have the means (i.e. the money and know-how) you will have no problem getting 400hp out of a 5sfe.

First you're going to need to bore out the block and buy some oversized pistons...i would suggest Arias Forged Pistons in a 9.5:1 CR Then get the head ported and polished, and get 1mm Super Alloy oversized intake valves and 2mm Super Alloy oversized exhaust valves from Ferrea Racing. Then get the webcam performance cams (your going to have to have the revlimiter removed or raised to really feel the benefit of the cams). Then i would have the heads and the valves sent to SwainTech Coatings and have them heat treat the combustion chambers and the valves, and might as well ge the pistons top-coated and the sideskirts poly-moly coated. Then nitrate and polish your crank and maybe chamfer ur oil passages (not necessary) and then have that all balanced and blueprinted. Have it reassembled with a metal head gasket, arp rod bolts, and arp head bolts.

Now you have to make a decision of whether or not you are going to need more than 14psi to get the power you want. If you need more thean 14psi you need to get an AEM standalone cuz with the 3sgte map sensor u'll only be able to boost 14psi, or 17psi if you instal or make your own FCD. Obviously you'll need a FMIC, IC piping, an upgraded CT26 with a 62-1 Trim wheel in it, ceramic coated turbine housing, 3" downpipe, ported and ceramic coated exh manifold, ported intake manifold. Good boost controller, upgraded ignition, etc.

Now you don't have to get ALL of that but if you want to go for high horsepower numbers y not be thorough about it.

Now to put that power to the wheels, thats gonna be a bitch. if you have an auto tranny just take it off and give it to Level Ten along with $3,200 and you will have an amazing bullet-proof tranny with a higher-stall torque converter, better synchros, better cooling, a shift kit, modifed shift points, crisper shifts, etc.

With a manual tranny you're gonna have to get a lighter flywheel, i would say a carbon single disck cluth, an LSD (not sure whats available) and some real sticky tires (i would suggest Nitto Drag Radials)

So basically what you need is a fairly large amount of money, patience cuz its going to take time, and general knowledge about your vehicle. If you have those things then you can do it.

Good Luck!

question is why over out the cylinder walls more... And 9.5:1 compression is too high, and you already got 2.2Liters of displacement when you bored out the cylinders you'll be going up in displacement and wouldnt that be a factor on what your redline is ... As for the cams I dont know if that would even work if you have a high rev'ing cams and a low redline.l
If you want 400hp to the wheels or to the crank. A 5s-gte would do the trick and I figured that you could run the 5s-gte with the stock 3s-gte electronics with out alot of issues... I would suggest getting a VPC at least ...