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Old 12-11-2003, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cold air question...

Ok, I've been very loosely toying with the idea of cold air for my car. To hell with the fact it's winter and I shouldn't be doing anything performace ( and to hell with the fact I gotta drop a new muffler on this weekend. I don't think this one's been asked yet, and if it has I'll ban myself from TN:

I was looking on Ebay at a cheap gen4 CAI and thought... the pipe seems to bend such that it would fit my gen2 if I tilted the mass air on its side and the kit I was looking at was less than $50. There are some bungs welded on for what I presume are vacuum lines but I could block them off easily. (Gen2's don't have them) Here's the kit: (bidding might close before you see this)

gen4 cold air

Thoughts anyone? I also would presume it's nearly as cheap to make my own but what can I say... I'm a lazy fooker

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1. The item you listed is a short ram intake not a cold air intake (cai).

2. You need a AFM adapter.

3. That intake might work if you chop it up and modify it.

4. Stop being a lazy fuck and build your own.
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1. The item you listed is a short ram intake not a cold air intake (cai).

2. You need a AFM adapter.

3. That intake might work if you chop it up and modify it.

4. Stop being a lazy fuck and build your own.
Short ram, cold air, well I guess I deserve one of these upside my head

I've given a lot of thought to bending my own and may still do that, but more short-ram style b/c I don't have anything that'll cut through the fender or I'd set it up like yours (Would a 30,000 rpm Dremel work?). Already have an adapter from the Ebay cone I had on originally, now I have a K&N Filtercharger cone from a Mustang on there (it's smaller than the Ebay cone and not as flashy (read: ricey, ghey. what have you).

Therefore I'll stop being a lazy fuck and build my own

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Old 12-12-2003, 09:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't compression bend the pipes your self, purcahase a 180 degree u-bend from JC. Whitney. Then cut it!
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Don't compression bend the pipes your self, purcahase a 180 degree u-bend from JC. Whitney. Then cut it!
Sounds good, and cheap (I know that particular pipe costs jack shit), but exactly what was wrong with compression bending? I'd think mandrel-bent is the way to go, no?

I'm gonna search for the homemade cold-air thread I know is around here somewhere and look into it, just gotta figure out how the 180º pipe is cut for this to work

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As for figuring out the 180 pipe...HELP ON THIS PLEASE!!! Somehow it's not making any sense to me
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Sounds good, and cheap (I know that particular pipe costs jack shit), but exactly what was wrong with compression bending? I'd think mandrel-bent is the way to go, no?
Compression / crimp bending puts crimps into the pipe. So the area that gets bent ends up being smaller then the rest of the pipe.

With mandrel bending theres no crimps.

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I'm gonna search for the homemade cold-air thread I know is around here somewhere and look into it, just gotta figure out how the 180º pipe is cut for this to work
http://www.teamdelsol.com/technical/...ke/default.asp

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http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/...X&appId=384794
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88LE saves my ass yet again... thanks dude. That setup he has on that del Sol looks easy. I knew what the 180 pipe was, I just wasn't sure how it would be cut to match the shape of the stock rubber hose leading to the mass air but it looks easy enough. As the directions for the cold air said: "...use your imagination..." I can dig that


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Old 12-13-2003, 02:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I knew what the 180 pipe was, I just wasn't sure how it would be cut to match the shape of the stock rubber hose leading to the mass air but it looks easy enough.
The section of pipe from the throttle body to AFM is mostly straight with a curve towards the end.

So you can pretty much cut the pipe in the middle of the u-bend.

Pic of my cai:

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88LE thanks, got just two more questions for you:

1. What color is that paint? (also brand and such) Looks good

2. Got any pics of the CAI inside the fender (after the hole)?

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Old 12-14-2003, 01:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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1. What color is that paint? (also brand and such)
Color: Ford blue
Brand: DupliColor high temp engine enamel

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2. Got any pics of the CAI inside the fender (after the hole)?
Nope, but I have a pic of the cai connected together outside of the car.



The pipes aren't oriented correctly, but you get the idea.
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Well if I'm correct he has an I4 not a V6 so he doesnt really need an adapter since us I4 guys don't have an AFM . Our CAI is pretty easy to make, just find the right degree bends !!!!!!!
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Well if I'm correct he has an I4 not a V6 so he doesnt really need an adapter since us I4 guys don't have an AFM . Our CAI is pretty easy to make, just find the right degree bends !!!!!!!
We're talking about a gen 2.

Gen 2 I4 (3S-FE) and V6 (2VZ-FE) have AFM's.
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Well if I'm correct he has an I4 not a V6 so he doesnt really need an adapter since us I4 guys don't have an AFM . Our CAI is pretty easy to make, just find the right degree bends !!!!!!!

Doh! Wrong Generation bro!
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88LE thank you. BTW is it possible to paint the PVC couplings? I'm planning gloss black pipe with medium blue painted couplings to keep it fairly low-key.

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88LE thank you. BTW is it possible to paint the PVC couplings? I'm planning gloss black pipe with medium blue painted couplings to keep it fairly low-key.

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Well if you want blue couplings I recommend that you get them in silicone. Samco Sport (www.samcosport.com) makes em.

You have to go through a distributor to get them though since they don't sell direct.

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