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Old 12-15-2003, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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camry gracia 2mz-fe

i didnt know that camry gracia's came in the 2mz-fe in japan. http://alljapanesecars.com/viewcr.ph...=1997&mc=MCV21
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Engine: 2MZ-FE (2496 cc, V6, 200 hp)
Wtf? Can someone explain this please?
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Old 12-15-2003, 06:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wtf? Can someone explain this please?
its crazy aint it i want to that if i go for the custum jdm look or style.
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Old 12-15-2003, 06:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it could be a typo. That site says that jdm gen 3's came with 3SGE engines in them which would make them somewhat bolt on, but I was told by toyota and posts on here that mounting that block in requires custom mounting. Maybe Sportivo can shed some light on this.
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it could be a typo. That site says that jdm gen 3's came with 3SGE engines in them which would make them somewhat bolt on, but I was told by toyota and posts on here that mounting that block in requires custom mounting. Maybe Sportivo can shed some light on this.
tru but i dont think that they would make the typo mistake about the motor several times on different pages.
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yeah, but i don't think toyota used 3sgte on so many different models...granted they had 5 sales divisions over there but that's too much duplication...even GM mixes things up a bit
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i guess its cheaper the way they do it.

cost cutting measures...... i don't know....
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Yeah the Gracia came with 2MZ as an option not to be confused with the 70's Inline 6 M series engines. It came mid year in 98.

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Name - 2MZ-FE
Head - DOHC
Valves - 24
Years - 98
CC - 2496
HP - 200@6000
Lb/Ft - 180@4600
B/S - 87.5x69.2
CR - 10.8:1
It comes in FW and AWD drive for both the wagon and the sedan.
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Also with the mounting points on the JDM Gracia and the US Camry is different becasue they are mounted different since they have the AWD option.
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Yeah the Gracia came with 2MZ as an option not to be confused with the 70's Inline 6 M series engines. It came mid year in 98.

It comes in FW and AWD drive for both the wagon and the sedan.
Ok, so it wasn't a typo. How does the 2MZ have half a liter less than my engine, but still make more power? The c/r is 10.8...it's only .3 higher than my 1mz. Is that how it's making the extra power? Considering that it seems more efficient, why wasn't it brought over to NA?
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Ok, so it wasn't a typo. How does the 2MZ have half a liter less than my engine, but still make more power? The c/r is 10.8...it's only .3 higher than my 1mz. Is that how it's making the extra power? Considering that it seems more efficient, why wasn't it brought over to NA?
I'm guessing mainly cause due to the emissions restrictions here they retard an engine greatly. Also the 2M was more a less an expermental engine, they changed it i believe like 2 times while in production to try to get more bang for the buck. If you think gas here in $$$$ try getting gas there. Take a Stock JDM 2JZ and a Stock USDM 2JZ, the J-Spec one will always own the US one.

The reason the 2M wasn't brought over is becasue the 1M was actually made for use outside of Japan although they do have J-Spec 1M. While the 2M was specially for Japan and a few other countries.
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The Gracia also in the latter years came with the option Carbon fiber on the inside instead of the wood or the plain color with the touring edition.

It also came with Voice Nav which was replaced by the DVD Nav as well.

It also came with MD/CD/Tape with radio tuner and sits on 16's.

The .5 for Gracia actually came in 99 not 2000 as it is here, but was changed in 98 also.

They remote alarm/door opener is actually part of the key.
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wow, what an epic tale, hahahaha.

its all good, very interesting. i didn't know that.
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They remote alarm/door opener is actually part of the key.
did this come factory with only a few US camrys? I've got the alarm controls on my key, but I thought every one else did too.
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did this come factory with only a few US camrys? I've got the alarm controls on my key, but I thought every one else did too.
You got a Japan made Camry that was made for the US market, thats why.
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