Gen. 5 muffler - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

brazilgoal · 12-27-2003, 08:31 AM

I just located an internet site (toyotaparts4u.com) that says they have a TRD muffler that applies to both Solara and Camry for both 6 and 4 cynlinder engines. Can someone explain to me how the same muffler can work for 2.4L and 3.0 L enignes?

I have a 2.4L SE '03 Man. Transmission. All I'd like is more horsepower and a little bit more sound from the exhaust.

Aussie Ed · 12-27-2003, 10:16 AM

if its the muffler you're talking about, its universal, the only difference is in the inlet size, its probably one small difference which won't make much of a difference when it comes to fitting it on, all you have to do is cut off your original muffler and weld on the trd one.

someone correct me if i'm wrong....

1uzjon · 12-27-2003, 10:19 AM

In Japan they have many cars that utilize the same part for different engines and so forth. The manufacturers can snake by with the same part # for many vehicles and it helps their bottom line.

mcv30 · 12-28-2003, 03:42 PM

brazilgoal wrote:

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I just located an internet site (toyotaparts4u.com) that says they have a TRD muffler that applies to both Solara and Camry for both 6 and 4 cynlinder engines. Can someone explain to me how the same muffler can work for 2.4L and 3.0 L enignes?

the site you looked at, is it the gen 5 muffler?
if it is, it does fit for the gen 5 4cyl/6cyl camry and/or 04 solara 4 cyl and/or 6 cyl models. they're bolted on single muffler, but doesn't include the cat-back piping. futhermore, the performance gain from that single trd muffler is up to 10%.

brazilgoal · 12-28-2003, 09:53 PM

Yes, it is for the gen 5 Camry.

My assumption is that a 3.0L 6 cyn engine will put out more exhaust than a 2.4L 4 cyn engine. How can the same muffler accomodate the different levels of exhaust flow? I only know enough to ask the question.

Also, where can I get the TRD muffler cheaper than $418? Any other muffler out there that is quality made for less $$$$$ and that fits my gen 5 2.4L SE Camry?

mcv30 · 12-29-2003, 01:25 AM

brazilgoal wrote:

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Also, where can I get the TRD muffler cheaper than $418? Any other muffler out there that is quality made for less $$$$$ and that fits my gen 5 2.4L SE Camry?

on ebay once in awhile there's a post on that same exact trd muffler and the price range is around 375-400 just have to check every now and then. i know that borla came out another exhaust and it's full cat-back piping also, but it's only for 6cyl. as for greddy, they do have an exhaust fit for the gen4 camry, however the gen5 will be slightly different, but you can get it universal fitted by custom extending the pipe from the bolt on. i believe master muffler or whomever can customize the fitting for that and have it fitted on directly.

mrgixxir · 12-29-2003, 11:10 AM

for you gen 5's with a v6 heres a full catback exhaust cheaper than that rear section only trd muffler....the only thing is i really don't know how it looks up close and most important how it sounds...

http://borla.com/automotive/?cartID=...9205.145.32.40

kgasso · 12-30-2003, 05:31 PM

Can't link directly to their cart items (nice IP

) - you actually have to use the drop-down, since it uses cookies and server-side sessions...

mrgixxir · 01-04-2004, 04:22 AM

just go to borla.com and search for products for a gen 5 then.

CamryWhat? · 01-04-2004, 12:28 PM

Kgasso what color is that!!! i want my car to be that color (sorry about being off topic

kgasso · 01-05-2004, 02:15 AM

I do wonder what the exhaust note on this sounds like... hopefully not too horrible until you go WOT

CamryWhat -> It's actually just Aspen Green Pearl, a stock color. I just went to town with the clay bar, paint cleaner, polish, and wax, and it glistens pretty nicely. The reflection you see on the side is the street I live on

phatboy555 · 01-05-2004, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by brazilgoal
Yes, it is for the gen 5 Camry.

My assumption is that a 3.0L 6 cyn engine will put out more exhaust than a 2.4L 4 cyn engine. How can the same muffler accomodate the different levels of exhaust flow? I only know enough to ask the question.

Also, where can I get the TRD muffler cheaper than $418? Any other muffler out there that is quality made for less $$$$$ and that fits my gen 5 2.4L SE Camry?

well it seems that what you're looking at is just the muffler...the muffler itself is really just there to deaden the sound and make your car more quiet...

if you're actually wondering about how a cat-back could be made for a v6 and i4 than that requires a diff answer...ideally for a na 4banger, your exhaust diameter for the most power would be around 2.25"...this'll lessen backpressure thus losing torque but you'll get freer flow up top for more hp

you could stick that same diameter piping on a v6 and see hp gains since it would not be as restrictive as the stock piping, but you could probably see more gains with bigger piping as you would flow more exhaust gases cause of the bigger displacement...so while one exhaust could fit both models (same chassis so all the hookup pts are the same) and one size piping COULD work, doesn't mean that it would give you the best amount of power for a every application

and if you're just looking for a muffler, any muffler with an inlet size that matches the diameter piping you have will work fine...when it comes to mufflers, it's really more about what sounds good to you...now if what you want is a full catback system for cheaper than 418, you could go custom mandrel bent piping and any muffler that your ears like...

hope i helped any, if not ask more questions

brazilgoal · 01-05-2004, 07:22 AM

Thanks for all the feedback gents and ladies!

I'm hesitant to lose any torque in the lower range. Since I only do street driving around town it doesn't seem that a gain in HP at the top will be much benefit to me.

I may could spend that hard earned money on another system that would give me better drivability and power.

Is there any data from tests for mufflers and cat-backs; stock vs. after market?

Or maybe any Gen. 5 2.4 L who has upgraded their muffler or cat-back?

Still learning.

Aussie Ed · 01-05-2004, 07:35 AM

if you are thinking about doing any engine mods a new exhaust system is a must as your car needs to breathe better.

it won't be a big loss of bottom end if you get a cat back. any loss can be slightly compensated by a good high flow air filter, that is you need to eqalise whats going out and with what's coming in.

i have lost a little bit of bottom end after i got my cat back and after i put in a new air filter, it has sorta balanced out a little.

however if you are not certain in whether or not to change your exhaust first, then up grade your handling, that is, get lowered springs, sport shocks, get new front and rear sway bars, new bushes and if you like, get front and rear strut tower bars.

but if its a bit of noise that you're after right now, then just change the muffler, be it a trd one, a hks one, apexi one, magna flow one. the choice is yours.

brazilgoal · 01-05-2004, 09:33 PM

With the Camry SE '03 version I got front and back sway bars and a front strut bar, with sport's tuned suspension and speed rated tires (16 inch V rated). I dropped in a K&N box air filter and would be interested in getting the Injen short air intake ($220) if I knew it would improve things even beyond the K&N.

Looks like I would need to get an entire cat-back system and muffler in order to see any results. Does a performance catalytic converter truly help out any?

By the way, what are "new bushes" for improved handling?

There are lower springs made for the '03 Camry, but do they really help with handing or are they just for looks?

Thanks for all the advice.