I4 to V6 Swap suggestions...

[zoni]

OK guys, my 5sfe took a turn for the worst, and bit the dust. I am going to swap in a v6 and standard tranny... I can't decide wether to go with the 3vz or 1mz. Here are some reasons for each...
3vz: I can get for 750 Bucks
I already have a wiring harness, ecu and all motor mounts. The wiring is really hard. I would pretty much have to destroy half of the wiring harness and wire about 30-40 percent of the thing differently. The switch over to electric cooling fan would be another wiring obstacle. The 3vz turbo kits are being designed and built right now...we know for sure.
1mz: I can get for like 600-650 bucks
The wiring would not be as difficult, because they changed the wiring in 1994 and both the 1mz and my car would be in the new wiring pattern. The 1mz runs an electric cooling fan instead of the hydro unit. I would have to get motor mounts and wiring harness and ecu... Shiftgate turbo kit is in production or isnt it? we all dont know...

i really think now i might go with the 1mz just cause the wiring is easier. what do you guys think???

[Nick]

1mz is probably easier, cuz your car's a 94, it was produced for more years, and you can rig up a supercharger to it

but i still think a built up force fed 3vz could take more than a 1mz

[zoni]

yeah it could, iron block vs aluminum... BUT i would never push it to the limits of the BLOCK... thats a ton of boost. i just want like 350 horses pullin my camry eventually... soooooooo i prolly will just go 1mz cause it will be a LOT easier to wire up...

[I4 to V6 Swap]

You still need the manual 1MZ computer, which might be easier to find then a 3vz. You could also set it up with a solara computer. I don't think either way is easier to wire up. There are a few more sensors for the 1MZ. For example there is one in the middle of the exhaust before the cat.

I forgot to mention that to you. I had to have the sensor wired into the harness, and then have it come through the center console and drill a hole to the bung on the exhaust. I think this is for the 1MZ. I don't think the sensor is on the 3VZ.

The 1MZ has two emissions set ups. I mean the charcoal canisters and vacuum lines. The 95-96 V6 used the same one as our I4, but the 97-01 used a new system to be cleaner. Well it is a pain in the ass since I am in California. I may be wrong, but i think this is where they also get the extra horsepower.

As for the iron block being stronger, most likely. Iron would not lose heat as well as the aluminum, and aluminum weighs less.

I would choose the 1MZ cause I did. Stock wise, it had more power and was a a little more efficient on fuel, and parts are probably more common between the camry and the solara.

Good luck.

[zoni]

come on guys!!! which is better in your opinion and why... 1mz or 3vz???

[97KaMuRi]

go all out and get a 5vz-fe and then do custum setup rear wheel drive, and the supercharge that mofo.

[zoni]

i cant take anything this guy says seriously... he was the one with the fake JDM engine... if you noobs dont know what im talking about, do a search for japanese 3sfe, a thread started by 97kamuri... its some goooooood humor material...

[97KaMuRi]

har har har, but seriously i used to have an 95 es300 and that car was nice the motor was unbelivable, so i think you should get the 1mz-fe with the 92 es300 5-speed and the computer basically the whole front clip you should have everything you need.

[Erbe]

sooooo.....basically what is the best engine to get

[zoni]

im going with the 1mz-fe from 94. im getting a standard tranny from a 97 camry. I will post a full writeup with pics and stuff when i am done... not step by step people!, but roughly, ya know... if you guys can find prices as good as mine, i think we might see some more i4 to v6 conversions happening....

the rough parts of my swap will be the clutch pedal and the wiring harness... the clutch pedal i have is from a 1990 celica. also, the shifter and cables are from the same car... but those are fine, i gotta drill a few holes to mount the shifter up, but no biggy...
also the wiring of the harness is always cut when a junkyard removes a motor... so i will have that half with the motor, and i had to buy the OTHER half for 200 bucks from another place... so i gotta splice every single wire... and i do shit right, that means every connection soldered and heat shrunk... so thats gonna take me like half a day right there... damn them!

ill post back on my progress...

[I4 to V6 Swap]

I am glad you got the 94. That should work with the charcoal canister you got. I don't know what you are going to do about the computer though. Also, I used the same fuel pump, but I think that was a mistake. I might have to change to the V6 pump. It works fine, but I have trouble starting the enginesometimes.

[88 LE]

Originally posted by Zoni_Camry
also the wiring of the harness is always cut when a junkyard removes a motor... so i will have that half with the motor, and i had to buy the OTHER half for 200 bucks from another place... so i gotta splice every single wire... and i do shit right, that means every connection soldered and heat shrunk... so thats gonna take me like half a day right there... damn them!

Damn lazy bastards. Its not that much trouble to unplug the harness from the ecu and fusebox.

Anyways I would see about getting a complete wiring harness, cos soldering and heatshrinking all of those wires is gunna be a bitch.

[racerhex]

3vz-fe? why one because it stronger built(weather you need it or not its nice to have) two because you will be apart of an elete special forces camry team. three shiftgate will soon have a kit out for it and thats when all the 1mz guys will see why they went with the wrong engine. Four it looks oh so powerfull! Talk to ben at shiftgate if he cant puresuade you then no one can!

Either way good luck and glad to see it!

BTW USE THE SEARCH BUTTON!!!! All this can be found....LoL J/K

[I4 to V6 Swap]

two because you will be apart of an elete special forces camry team

He will be joining a special forces team already. The engine swap from a I4 to a V6.

[zoni]

yeah, your car was born with a v6, mine and swap's have EVOLVED.... We are the elite special forces camry team with the engine swap boys...

btw, about the turbo kit... i just aquired some new welding skills, and a nasty welder buddy if i fuck up... SO therefore, i will make my own kit. starting right with the manifolds... not soon, but in the spring/summer. and no, i wont be selling more... just making my own.

HEY, i dont start threads without searching, or without knowing that ALL the info and/or opinions that i want or need cant be found with a search. When i tell noobs to do a search, its for the right reasons... how many duplicate threads do we want on the board? Racerhex you lil biatch!