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Old 01-28-2009, 08:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Toyota's Coolant 'Long Life' vs 'Super Long Life'?

have a 2003 camry.

the owner's manual suggest Toyota long life.

but when i went to the dealer, they said after year 2000, all models use Super Long Life (Premixed).

so i eventually i bought the Super Long Life.

I am doing a drain/fill. the old coolant is a light Pinkish color.

is it okay to fill with Super Long Life?

Super Long Life = pinkish color?

thanks.
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That is correct, the pre 2000 models take the Red Cap Toyota coolant, the non mixed type. Everything new takes the light pink mixed Yellow Cap Toyota coolant.

After you drain the old, I would fill with water and run it until the thermostat opens and then re drain it. Then fill with the new Super Long Life.
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That is correct, the pre 2000 models take the Red Cap Toyota coolant, the non mixed type. Everything new takes the light pink mixed Yellow Cap Toyota coolant.

After you drain the old, I would fill with water and run it until the thermostat opens and then re drain it. Then fill with the new Super Long Life.

^ Thanx.

yes i am going to fill water/ run engine, hopefully get as much old coolant out as possible.

i am doing like 2-3 rounds of fill/ drain water.
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That is correct, the pre 2000 models take the Red Cap Toyota coolant, the non mixed type. Everything new takes the light pink mixed Yellow Cap Toyota coolant.

After you drain the old, I would fill with water and run it until the thermostat opens and then re drain it. Then fill with the new Super Long Life.
As far as I understand when you run it with water and then drain it, the engine block will hold some water. You better find a drain plug and drain all the water out of it otherwise you will dilute already diluted coolant.

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only use distilled water. do not use tap water. search more and you can find how to drain and fill the proper way.
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As far as I understand when you run it with water and then drain it, the engine block will hold some water. You better find a drain plug and drain all the water out of it otherwise you will dilute already diluted coolant.

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Not only the block, but the heater core also. You can't get 100% of the water out so it's best just to do 1 or more drain and refills using the pink coolant only. Either that or use something like Zerex G05 if you want something concentrated.
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Not only the block, but the heater core also. You can't get 100% of the water out so it's best just to do 1 or more drain and refills using the pink coolant only.
^ yes great point. will do the drain/fill with this new coolant newly replaced in the radiator now.

hate how the coolant is premixed (55/45).
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It doesn't really make a difference which you use, as Super-Long life is still backwards compatible with all Toyotas.

This thread reminds me that I have to do a coolant flush this year.
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is it true that distilled water will evaporate under high heat?

cause i did a round of flush with distilled water only. followed by adding the premixed coolant. (like touringcamry mentioned this might dilute already diluted coolant?)

but if the distilled water will evaporated then i will just keep adding premixed coolant and wouldn't the radiator eventually will have all premixed coolant left??
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It doesn't really make a difference which you use, as Super-Long life is still backwards compatible with all Toyotas.
^ ahhh thanx, good info!
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is it true that distilled water will evaporate under high heat?
It is still H2O. Is not it!
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It doesn't really make a difference which you use, as Super-Long life is still backwards compatible with all Toyotas.
Yes, it is backwards compatible with all Toyotas antifreeze. The only problem here that you will lose Long life benefits. You will have to flush it now every 30,000 miles.

You guys need to do some reading at www.camrystuff.com!!! It is there

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It is still H2O. Is not it!
lol after re-reading my original question, it was stupid .

excellent, will keep adding the premixed coolant (as the water evaporates). and will eventually have a radiator with mostly coolant.

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lol after re-reading my original question, it was stupid .

excellent, will keep adding the premixed coolant (as the water evaporates). and will eventually have a radiator with mostly coolant.

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I am a little lost here! Why would it evaporate? It is a closed system. When the pressure in the system reaches certain level the excess antifreeze is pushed into an expansion tank where it will eventually evaporate. Probably will take a couple of years to lose a pint!

Just do drain and refill. Do not bother with emptying engine block. A little old antifreeze left there will not hurt much.

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cause i did a round of flush with distilled water only. followed by adding the premixed coolant. (like touringcamry mentioned this might dilute already diluted coolant?)
i have already done the flush/drain/fill. i am just afraid of the possible problem (quoted above)... over diluting... so too much water vs coolant ratio in the radiator.
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