Ratko? Need your help on some wiring

[Tony the Tiger]

Hey Ratko, I recalled hearing that you are skilled in tracing wires :smile:

The wires I need for my SAFC are:
- Throttle position
- RPM signal
- Ground 1 and Ground 2
- MAF (splice)
***Are there anymore that I need?***

Anyone who has their SAFC hooked up on a '94 Camry can help too. Thanks for the assistance everyone.

Link to ECU Diagram #1:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/h.leung/ECUDiagram/ECUPage1.jpg

Link to ECU Diagram #2:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/h.leung/ECUDiagram/ECUPage2.jpg

Link to ECU Diagram #3
http://www3.sympatico.ca/h.leung/ECUDiagram/ECUPage3.jpg

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Tony the Tiger

DSCR.net

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[Ratko]

On 2002-03-20 23:23, Tony the Tiger wrote:
Hey Ratko, I recalled hearing that you are skilled in tracing wires :smile:

The wires I need for my SAFC are:
- Throttle position
- RPM signal
- Ground 1 and Ground 2
- MAF (splice)
***Are there anymore that I need?***

Don't forget a power source (+12V) :smile:

Yeah, thats all of em.

Here are the colors:

MAF : blue-black (E8)
RPM : black (E10)
Throttle : black-yellow (E8)

Ground and power you can probe for... Hope that helps! I want my S-AFC too !!

latez man!

[Tony the Tiger]

Ratko, the install of my SAFC went perfectly! Thanks for helping me tracing the wires, and thanks for the quick response!

Everything works great...pics coming soon as usual :grin:

[TRDCelica]

Sorry to jump in on you guys' post, but I've got a question about the S-AFC...

What benefits (power gain) does it provide to an normally aspirated engine? Me and Andrew (trueno92) were debating about this tonight and I was wondering if you'd shed some light on the subject.

Thanks!

[Phi]

Everything works great...pics coming soon as usual

and dyno charts too? pwetty please :grin:

[EKam]

On 2002-03-23 23:11, TRDCelica wrote:
What benefits (power gain) does it provide to an normally aspirated engine? Me and Andrew (trueno92) were debating about this tonight and I was wondering if you'd shed some light on the subject.

Thanks!

I've seen GT-S dynoed sheet with S-AFC (the car was 100% stock I think), there are very minimal gain like 3hp here and there.

But I would say it'll make a difference on a modified car that is at least i/h/e.

[TRDCelica]

I'm very curious why just basic mods and a S-AFC will give pretty big power gains...

Example 1:
http://www.japanese-auto.com/pics/srv4.gif

- 95 Prelude SRV dyno run stock, and then Intake/Exhaust with S-AFC. This one is Yoshio tuned tho...

Example 2:
http://www.newcelica.org/other/dyno/larrydougherty/index.htm

- 00 Celica GT-S. Basic mods, CAI, exhaust, and S-AFC. 181 hp at the wheels!! Thats approx 210-215hp at the flywheel.

We all know that just intake and exhuast won't give those kind of gains (throughout the powerband too, not just peak hp)... so is the AFC really making that much of a difference? Do tell! I'm very curious!

[soundlzrd]

guys, i was wondering the same thing. is the gains worth the money on a N/A car?

[EKam]

Example 1:
http://www.japanese-auto.com/pics/srv4.gif

- 95 Prelude SRV dyno run stock, and then Intake/Exhaust with S-AFC. This one is Yoshio tuned tho...

Are you sure that's S-AFC not V-AFC? Yoshio might have also tuned his Vtec so that's not quite the same like other NA cars.

We all know that just intake and exhuast won't give those kind of gains (throughout the powerband too, not just peak hp)... so is the AFC really making that much of a difference? Do tell! I'm very curious!

Well think of it this way, our stock fuel map is tuned for fuel economy, it'll always run a little bit lean in low-end and rich in top-end. Adding i/e might alter the air/fuel mixture (it all depends, some cars do have more strictive intake/exhaust system some don't) so by tuning it to the optimal condition it might gain 5hp or so... just like on the celi dyno... 6hp gain with SAFC semi-tuned.

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[TRDCelica]

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On 2002-03-23 23:54, elegantcam wrote:

Example 1:
http://www.japanese-auto.com/pics/srv4.gif

- 95 Prelude SRV dyno run stock, and then Intake/Exhaust with AFC. This one is Yoshio tuned tho...

Are you sure that's S-AFC not V-AFC? Yoshio might have also tuned his Vtec so that's not quite the same like other NA cars.

Just double checked. The car is actually is a 98 Prelude SH... and it says AFC...

http://www.japanese-auto.com/dyno.html
(fourth one down the list)


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Anthony Woo
2k Celica GT-S

&quot;Silly wiceboyz, VTECs are for kids.&quot;

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[EKam]

Dude it says &quot;Apex-i AFC&quot;... :smile: