Celica alltrac tranny swap... - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

CmputerWiz · 02-19-2004, 12:36 PM

I searched all over and didn't really see an answer to this question. When swapping in a 3sgte in to a Camry (like my gen2), why not just use the Celica alltrac's transmission? I'm sure I could just cap the back where the rear driveshaft would exit. Is there somehting I'm missing here? Maybe it's different dimensions and there's no chance of it fitting? Axles won't work? Must be some reason nobody has done this. I think I'll be getting an Alltrac front clip this weekend, and of course it has the tranny so I'd rather use that for now if possible.

Thanks!
SR

Nick · 02-19-2004, 12:39 PM

i'd use the tranny you have in there right now

why have a good engine and a boro transmission

CmputerWiz · 02-19-2004, 12:57 PM

Will a stock 3sfe tranny and clutch be able to handle the power of a stock 3sgte motor? I have no idea on what the power handling of one of these stock trannies is, hadn't seen it posted anywhere.

Thanks!
Steven

***zoni*** · 02-19-2004, 01:38 PM

if you dont have the money for the solara tranny, i'd just use the alltrac tranny... if it's from an alltrac and not an hr2, the shift linkage is on the correct side for a camry swap... that was the major problem with using the mr2 tranny. and THAT is what all the fuss is about in the other threads.

CmputerWiz · 02-19-2004, 01:41 PM

Well here's the deal. I can get this clip tomorrow and do the swap this weekend. Leave everything stock on the motor and just get the camry running with it. Later on I'll be putting in a higher HP motor, better tranny, etc, but for now I want to just get it running. There's no place I have found a Solara tranny close to me that I can pickup by this weekend for the swap. So if the Alltrac tranny will fit, why haven't more people used it? I've seen lots of peopel that have bought alltrac front clips, then gone out and gotten another tranny...as if the allrac one wouldn't work.

Thanks again,
SR

1fastLE · 02-19-2004, 04:13 PM

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CmputerWiz · 02-19-2004, 04:20 PM

It will bolt up, so thats great news!! Hopefully I can pick up the clip Saturday morning, so by Sunday I'll let you know!

THanks again,
SR

jhbhatia · 02-19-2004, 04:35 PM

i WOULD mate it with the solara v6 m/t tranny! i know some people on celica.net have done this...

white90dx · 02-19-2004, 05:00 PM

You would have to weld up the center differential so that you don't totally ruin the transmission. I'm not sure how well the all-track tranny would handle the power with the rear drive shaft not driving anything. If that's a risk you are willing to take, go for it!

-Charlie

gaak · 02-19-2004, 05:34 PM

you should go crazy and make it an alltrac camry!! that would be f***in awesome!!

white90dx · 02-19-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by gaak
you should go crazy and make it an alltrac camry!! that would be f***in awesome!!

Psssstt..... they made all-trac Camrys... (they were just slow 3s-fe versions)

-Charlie

CmputerWiz · 02-19-2004, 05:42 PM

If they had a drivetrain that could actually support the power levels I'm looking to do, I would go that route. I'm always one for having more wheels with power. I had a 93 hyundai elantra back in...umm maybe 1996 that we put a civic engine/auto tranny in the back and made it awd. It wasn't pretty, and wasn't fast, but I got the hyundai for like $500 so it was something neat to mess around with. That wasn't really "awd" so to speak, it was just dual wheel drive..LOL

But yea, they don't really have anything to support what I want. The engine I have for this thing is a 5s block, 3sgte head, ported/polished/1mm oversize valves, 272 cams, just everything basically. So hopefully this weekend I can get it running with the stock celica stuff, work out all the bugs, then find a tranny that can handle 500whp or more, and go for the gold.

SR

white90dx · 02-19-2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by CmputerWiz
and go for the gold.

SR

Or sell it to me for cheap.

-Charlie

gaak · 02-19-2004, 06:03 PM

damn, i keep thinkin gen 3 here, cuz the DON'T make a gen 3 alltrac.....and yes dude, i am fully aware of the older alltracs.... my head is not under a rock somewhere, just missed the gen 2 comment. besides, he could still make it a 3sGte alltrac and that would still be cool as hell......

***zoni*** · 02-20-2004, 01:36 AM

you should talk to Wraith about doing the 5sgte... hes done this. you should talk with him about complications and engine management stuff...