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Old 04-14-2004, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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need 50 more horsepower and perhaps some torque

engine: 2.0l 3sfe

i wish to mod my car to have a grand total of 160hp.

it currently has 115hp.

i am not really on a budget but i would like to not spend a whole lot of money whereas i work really hard for my $$$

i have compiled a short list of the things i plan to do to add some horsepower:

1: fabricate a cold air intake
2: advance timing a few degrees
3: port & polish
4: remove cat converter and replace with straight pipe
5: get a better muffler

is there anything else that i can do to milk my 3sfe for all its worth? i really dont want to do nitrous or t/c or s/c...

thanks a bunch!
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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isn't it illegal for emissions testing to remove your cat converter completely?
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how bout turbo? could put something together for under 1k i bet
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Dood, you'll be lucky if you actually get anything around 115hp with the age of your engine. You'll never going to get anywhere near 160 doing everything you listed.

3S-GE swap and be done with it.

Just telling you the truth.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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need 50 more horsepower and perhaps some torque
Don't we all?



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isn't it illegal for emissions testing to remove your cat converter completely?
of course.

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advance timing a few degrees
not gonna get you far.
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a NOS kit for sale..that will get you there...
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there is no emissions test in montana.

thats why i asked if there was anything else i could do to get some hp. i really dont want to swap out another engine.
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Like everybody here is saying the amendments you are thinking of will give you 5, 10 or 15 hp maximum. If you want to get more, either have your engine rebuilt and add a turbo (+all necessary accessories) or swap for another engine like the 3sgte. In both cases it will cost you AT LEAST 1,500 to 2,000 bucks, and that will be if you do the work yourself. I am not
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Old 04-14-2004, 02:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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simply put: without forced induction or a lot of money, there is no way you'll come close to a +50hp increase
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... sorry I clicked on "submit reply" a bit too early
I am not willing to discourage you but everyone here has already thought countless times about most effective / best price solution and there is no secret, just what we are saying ...
It also takes time, courage and knowledge !!! you'll need to do a lot of research before otherwise you'll mess up for sure your project.
Good luck !
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Okey dokey!

I appriciate the assistance you all have given me.

I am going to do the stuff I listed anyways...

Can anyone tell me exactly what a port & polish is?
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It's a kind of improvement of your intake to allow it to get more air. Do a search on Google or on this site, you'll get many ideas on how to do this.
Oh yes by the way, be carefull when advancing timing, if you go too far you could get some backfire problems, also it might be good to start running on a higher octane fuel to avoid this (maybe someone here can confirm this...) As I said be careful I know people who blowed their engine because of a too high timing, that CAN happen...
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Coulda sworn port and polish was when they bore our your cylinders a little and give you slightly bigger pistons so that you have slightly more displacement and also clean out a lot of crap that's build up?
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oh ok alright ! well in other words it is an entire engine rebuild !
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Coulda sworn port and polish was when they bore our your cylinders a little and give you slightly bigger pistons so that you have slightly more displacement and also clean out a lot of crap that's build up?
NO! A port had polish has to do with the head, not the cylinders. By opening up the ports in the head that go to the valve (the "port" part), and polishing the ports for smoother flow (the "polish" part), you can get better airflow to the engine. You will need to remove the head from the engine to do this, so it is much like an engine rebuild, and its often a good time to freshen up the rest of the engine.

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