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Old 04-15-2004, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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scoops?

What're good hood scoops to run with a short-ram?

I'm still undecided on if I want a CAI or want to go with picking up a hood and installing/painting the scoop and then putting in a short-ram.

I know cost-effective would be the CAI, but which do you think would get more power?

Related, do you guys know anywhere that sells 'gill' styled hood-scoops?

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Old 04-15-2004, 11:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well....
I don't know anything where to get them.. but I'll share my view about short ram vs CAI

I think CAI would be much better because you get extra power at the start. While with "short ram + hood scoop" only on higher speeds (i think).
Plus, why waste so much money for really small power gains. Get a turbo or supercharger. Or put your money in something better, like suspension, or rims or what ever fits your style IMHO it's just waste of time
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Old 04-15-2004, 11:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hood scoop would be utterly useless for your application
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Perhaps I should clarify.
I am doing an NA buildup. This will not be the only thing I'm doing. I'm going to be doing the CAI/Short RAM (pending the outcome of this thread) shortly. (Bosch Plat +4) Plugs/wires will be done tomorrow afternoon, and shortly there after, I intend to do my catback, followed by the rest of my exhaust.

Finally, I intend to end up with a short-block overhaul changing my CR to 11-1.

Like I said, the car will end up with a lot more than just a CAI or RAM intake. The gains from both a CAI and RAM will be minimal on a baseline cam. Regardless, I don't understand why everyone must assume that everyone asking is asking solely for a stock car.
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Having a scoop either way will cool your engine bay. Which is never a bad thing. CAI don't really give you that much. It's like a stock box that's more free flowing. I'd go with the short ram and the scoop. Keep the bay cool and get the sound difference.

And the scoop is a nice look too. Go for it man.

If you do, tell me how it comes out. That is one of my planned features when I get my car painted.

Good luck with your choice.
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Thanks, smoking. I'd like to hear some more thoughts yet. Maybe give it a couple days. I'm sure I could pull a decent hood out of the junkyard to project the whole thing out with, for rather cheap.

I'm still trying to decide which to do though. Sound isn't really a concern, but the performance is. I like the stock look, but if the performance difference with the RAM+scoops would be that great, I'd certainly not belly-ache about going RAM.

Another reason why I'm considering the RAM is because it seems there'd be less of a problem with rain and so forth.
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You can always get an idea of what it would be with a ram and a scoop. Open up the filter box, yank off your hood, and see what its like. hehe.
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I would just go for the CAI. I think scoops look silly on Camry's and it's not going to give you much more hp no matter what is done to a NA car.
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the only decent looking scoop is the OEM 4-Runner scoop....

or the USDM Celica AllTrac scoop...
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the only decent looking scoop is the OEM 4-Runner scoop....

or the USDM Celica AllTrac scoop...
Both scoops will fit the camry?
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Both scoops will fit the camry?
no. It's not like hoodscoops are detachable parts of a car. They are actual parts of the hood so unless the hood fits the camry, it's not gonna work.

Any scoop must be custom
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i believe you can get hoodscoops off ebay which you can then install onto your hood using some fiberglass or whatever
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http://www.store.yahoo.com/tyfoonmot...droofsids.html

Not sure as to the material. But you can sand down the edges to make it look smother, and than tac weld it to your hood. Or just use the 3M adhesive that comes with it.

I also have some other sites it you need them. mainly fiberglass ones.
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http://www.store.yahoo.com/tyfoonmot...droofsids.html

Not sure as to the material. But you can sand down the edges to make it look smother, and than tac weld it to your hood. Or just use the 3M adhesive that comes with it.

I also have some other sites it you need them. mainly fiberglass ones.
My brother worked (professionally) in an auto-body shop for a couple years. I think I'd abuse the 'family hookup' with this one, but I could see if he'd be willing to help.

What kind of materials are the ones you linked to made out of? They're certainly cheap.
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doh, the 'gill' styled ones are fake.
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