Intake downpipe groupbuy~!

[EKam]

Basically the cold-air system will include the bottom tray (the stock airbox is made up of 2 pieces, the bottom piece will be made to fit the downpipe) from the stock airbox and a pipe will continue down to the bumper on the driver's side.

This cold-air setup is going to be made at Brullen Exhaust, a local exhaust shop.

The disadvantage of running a straight pipe down with the cone filter right at the bumper is that it will suck in everything include rain/snow/ice which destroys the idea of the cold-air setup.

The advantage of keeping the stock airbox is that it works at a heat shield by itself and does not require an aftermarket cone filter which could be costy and you will spend extra $ to get a heatshield, cold-air downpipe, etc.

A prototype of the downpipe will be made once we have enough people for the GB, see more info below.

Application: Gen3 V6
Price (approximate): 5-10 people - CDN$200, 10-20 people - CDN$180

Send email to kamuri@tt-cc.com if you're interested or simply reply this message.

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[speedemn]

Although there are advantages to the stock sairbox setup, is there any way that a cone setup can be made? Isn't a cone much better for more HP since it has more surface area in which to grab air into the intake?

[Bob Cat]

Can we not just fab some PVC up and do the same thing? Was going to take a look this weekend. I have heard that the Greenlee industrial electrical conduit (vinyl/rubber stuff) could be bent much the same as steel with a little heat, also does not transfer heat. Can be painted, no rustung. Anybody know a commercial electrician?

On 2001-08-20 15:37, KaMuRi wrote:
Basically the cold-air system will include the bottom tray (the stock airbox is made up of 2 pieces, the bottom piece will be made to fit the downpipe) from the stock airbox and a pipe will continue down to the bumper on the driver's side.

This cold-air setup is going to be made at Brullen Exhaust, a local exhaust shop.

The disadvantage of running a straight pipe down with the cone filter right at the bumper is that it will suck in everything include rain/snow/ice which destroys the idea of the cold-air setup.

The advantage of keeping the stock airbox is that it works at a heat shield by itself and does not require an aftermarket cone filter which could be costy and you will spend extra $ to get a heatshield, cold-air downpipe, etc.

A prototype of the downpipe will be made once we have enough people for the GB, see more info below.

Application: Gen3 V6
Price (approximate): 5-10 people - CDN$200, 10-20 people - CDN$180

Send email to kamuri@tt-cc.com if you're interested or simply reply this message.

_________________

&quot;Experienced the rush of 4A-GE.&quot;
&quot;H&amp;As: You take our Altezzas, we take your antennas!&quot;

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[EKam]

On 2001-08-20 19:53, speedemn wrote:
Although there are advantages to the stock sairbox setup, is there any way that a cone setup can be made? Isn't a cone much better for more HP since it has more surface area in which to grab air into the intake?

I'm sure you've heard enough about cone filter setups without the cold-air downpipe (sucking hot air from engine). Basically the reason why people would want to get a cone filter is because it allows them to do a cold-air setup which is what we wanted to achieve here. Ok I know some of the people want the sound but if you're into real performance then the downpipe is all you're going to need.

It might be easy to get a PRM intake just like what Jeff did to his 4-cyl, but in the case of V6 it's very costly to get an aftermarket intake system WIHOUT the downpipe. If you're just changing the stock airbox to a cone filter, you will still need to get a downpipe in order to achieve the actual performance gain, so why spend the extra cash if you can keep the stock airbox which already act as a heat shield and just get the downpipe?

[EKam]

On 2001-08-20 21:20, Bob Cat wrote:
Can we not just fab some PVC up and do the same thing? Was going to take a look this weekend. I have heard that the Greenlee industrial electrical conduit (vinyl/rubber stuff) could be bent much the same as steel with a little heat, also does not transfer heat. Can be painted, no rustung. Anybody know a commercial electrician?

Please clarify what you mean by doing the &quot;same thing&quot;?

The cost of the downpipe setup includes a custom made box (bottom piece) that can fit your stock air filter plus a pipe that extends down to the bumper. This has to be done because the connection from the stock pipe to the airbox is a werid oval shape and it's difficult to mold into.

This means that the shop will remove the stock airbox (bottom piece), do all the necessary measurement of the box and make a similar one that can fit the stock air-filter.

[speedemn]

You're right. I will give those guys a call tomorrow regarding the exhaust... then I'll mention this too.

On 2001-08-21 00:33, KaMuRi wrote:

I'm sure you've heard enough about cone filter setups without the cold-air downpipe (sucking hot air from engine). Basically the reason why people would want to get a cone filter is because it allows them to do a cold-air setup which is what we wanted to achieve here. Ok I know some of the people want the sound but if you're into real performance then the downpipe is all you're going to need.

It might be easy to get a PRM intake just like what Jeff did to his 4-cyl, but in the case of V6 it's very costly to get an aftermarket intake system WIHOUT the downpipe. If you're just changing the stock airbox to a cone filter, you will still need to get a downpipe in order to achieve the actual performance gain, so why spend the extra cash if you can keep the stock airbox which already act as a heat shield and just get the downpipe?

[Bob Cat]

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On 2001-08-21 00:39, KaMuRi wrote:

Please clarify what you mean by doing the &quot;same thing&quot;?

The cost of the downpipe setup includes a custom made box (bottom piece) that can fit your stock air filter plus a pipe that extends down to the bumper. This has to be done because the connection from the stock pipe to the airbox is a werid oval shape and it's difficult to mold into.

This means that the shop will remove the stock airbox (bottom piece), do all the necessary measurement of the box and make a similar one that can fit the stock air-filter.

I need to take a closer look, have not had the thing apart to look at it yet. Will get to it, maybe not till the weekend.

[Jzs147-RR]

When i come down this weekend we got to check and see what the gen 3 box has compared to my gen4.then we can go out for chinese food.. :smile:

[BLUEMEANIE]

so, I'm confused... are you eliminating the top box and moving the botom box down or removing the bottom box and extending a down pipe to the opening in the bumper or are you moving the botom box down and retaing the top box as a bypass in cases of sudden pressure drops ( i.e snow) ?
I am cuirous becaust I am working on a custom fab ceramic coated intake with a bypass but I like the sound of your tune. If I could only get a clear understanding.
thanx

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