Pirelli PZero Nero (M+S) P205/50ZR16

[dejacky]

After some www.tirerack.com research, these seem to be the best All-Terain tires for my camry. Is anyone familiar with them? They should fit correctly right? This will be my first real tire upgrade, so I just wanted to be sure. Anyone know where I can get them for cheaper than $94/tire and possibly a better performance/price tire? (yes i used search...).

[amerikim]

I like the Michelin Pilots, running 215/50 r17.
Quiet and just a teeny bit harsher then the standard 65s.
Read the PZeros didnt perform so hot, cause they were designed for heavier cars and they wear fast. You got them cheap though so worthy of consideration.

[EKam]

Those are all season tires.

Get a set of summer tires.

Our tire feedback thread:
http://www.toyotanation.com/showthre...threadid=12173

[dejacky]

The Pzero Nero (M&S) ones had one of the highest tread wear ratings.

When you said

Read the PZeros didnt perform so hot, cause they were designed for heavier cars and they wear fast.

,
are you sure you read about the Pzer Nero (M&S), or just the regular PZERO NERO's? And what's the use of getting summer tires if I need these to last me a long time, i.e. through this coming winter too. If I had summer tires, I'd have bad traction in icey, slippery, and snowy roads right?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...Contact_c.html

[EKam]

Snowy roads? You're from Dallas, Texas right? How cold does it get down there?

Pirelli Pzero is a waste of money for what you get. The cheapest set of summer tires will perform better than most all-season tires.

And stay away from all-seasons if you want performance. Peformance tires are not meant to last long.

[dejacky]

It can get quite chilly with snow and ice and a LOT of rains and stormy weather...although not as cold as toronto of course. The other thing is, these are QUIET tires and that's important to me. The high noise reduction and the fact that they have a good tread wear rating seem really good. I don't want to keep switching tires all seasons. I appreciate all of your feedback though, it would be more informative if you suggested specific cheaper alternatives though.

[EKam]

You should clarify what's your main consideration when picking tires.

You only mentioned better performance/price.

If (lack of) noise is important to you, these are designed to be quiet.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=AVS+dB+S2

[dejacky]

So, you think it's just a wiser purchase to pay ~$69 for similar performance than $95 for just "slightly better" features/performance of the PZER NERO (M&S)'s right?

[EKam]

I'm not sure which tires you're comparing to the Pzero Nero M&S. If you look at the Yokohama's that I've included in the link, it's almost the same price as the Pzero Nero M&S.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend anyone to get Pirelli because they're only good in the dry. And those tires that you've picked are using the same name "PZero" as their ultra high performance product line which I find it somewhat misleading along with the claim that it has 400 tread rating.

And just because it has M&S in the name doesn't mean it's specially designed to handle mud and snow. In fact all all-season tires are M&S.

I also notice you use the term performance, by this do you mean higher grip/traction?

If performance is what you're looking for, a tire with 400 trend rating that promises reduce noise is not going to give you any performance at all.

[amerikim]

Hmm, just looked into it, they are different - my bad. PZero Neros and PZero Neros M+S. Seems like a decent write up. Write about 'em if you do buy them.

The M&S have a better rating than the standard PZero. I am like curious now...Better wear ratings too. Plus they look better? and they are cheaper? Handle great? Hmmm..dream come true? Read one report as to good in light snow, great wet & dry.

I would have gotten a set if I didn't go with my Michelins. Maybe next time round.

[dejacky]

I just found out the Pirelli PZERO NERO (M+S) don't fit my stock wheels. What is the next best performing all season tire (preferably with at least 400 tread wear rating & one that isn't annoyingly loud)? Old tires just needed rotating, lots of life still left in them..guess i'm not buying any new ones hehe!